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[edit]Copyright Permission to modify and distribute this and other timelines originally developed by Niel Brandt have been granted to wikipedia. See Talk:Timeline of transportation technology
- I guess it's a start, even with only five dates! Would anyone really try to claim copyright on such an incomplete work? Better safe I guess! I've added a few more, much still to do. Andrewa 04:02, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC)
Sieur Freminet
[edit]The scuba article makes no mention of Sieur Freminet who this timeline claims originated it. Rmhermen 15:45, Dec 18, 2003 (UTC)
- Well a quick google search gives him lots of credit for what is described in this time line, so I guess we should update the scuba article? Stefan 03:05, Dec 19, 2003 (UTC)
Virtually every mention of Sieur Freminet turned up by google notes that his design was unsuccessful and that he died using the dvice. His entry in this timeline says that his device was highly successful. The truth??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.174.207.38 (talk) 23:39, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
Bauer
[edit]Didn't Bauer make 134 dives? --squadfifteen
Didn't Bauer make 134 dives? And, considering the title is "underwater technology", where are references to Deep Jeep, Aluminaut, Alvin, Trieste, and others? --squadfifteen 2/10/05
missed!
[edit]it has no mentioning of atmospheric diving suit :-(
misnomer
[edit]This article is about a limited aspect of underwater technology. For example it does not mention submarines or sonar. It should be renamed "Timeline of diving Technology" (or expanded to merit the broader title). Thunderbird2 22:30, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
Jules Verne & Twenty Thousand Leagues
[edit]I dont' know why article writer/s was so contemptuous against "exaggerated fiction" of Jules Verne; all the book is "exaggerated" telling about a technology fifty years in advance. I guess without Verne no one remind or know Rouquayrol name & his breathing device.--82.52.76.161 (talk) 20:40, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Seems to be mostly SCUBA
[edit]What about JIMs and JAMs? These are similar in a way to the old fashioned diving helmets, but are full suits so the occupant is at lower pressure than the high pressure surrounding water. Breathing gas, power, heat delivered from the surface, I believe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.172.128.120 (talk) 22:55, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
- Do you mean Atmospheric diving suit? It would be bit of a waste to duplicate the information there (as that article is mainly a timeline), but I'll add a see also. --RexxS (talk) 00:13, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
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You forgot to speak about Narciso Monturiol Estarriol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narc%C3%ADs_Monturiol_i_Estarriol
This Spanish engineer was the inventor of the first air independent and combustion engine driven submarine.
And also Isaac Peral y Caballero.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Peral
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[edit]At present, the article contains a mixture of en-gb and en-us spellings, along with a mixture of dmy, mdy and ymd style dates. Can we reach a consensus to use either US-style or GB-style and regularise the article, please? --RexxS (talk) 18:11, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- RexxS, I agree that this would save effort in the long run, and possibly avoid quibbles. My choice would be for GB English and dmy as in dd Month yyyy. I have tried to work out if there is a strong precedent but as far as I can see there is not. For what it may be worth, based on XTools analysis, my contributions plus Anthony Appleyard's come to 45% of authorship by character count, and well over 50% by each of added text and edit count. Kintaro, Gene Hobbs and yourself have also made frequent or significant contributions. I may have jumped the gun a trifle as I have already been making date format changes to the style I usually use for list defined refs, which is fairly well established as the status quo for this article. · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 18:15, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- 'evening mates. My preference goes to GB English too. In reference to the date format, well, right now I can't remember when... but once one Wikipedia fellow editor reproved me I wasn't using the "officially approved" policy. He pretended that here, in the English-language Wikipedia, the dates have to be expressed like in "on 20 January 2021" rather than "on January the 20th, 2021". I don't know if it's true, if whether or not there really is a consensus rule for the date, but since then I type "on 20 January 2021" (thus: dmy). Please let me know your views. Kintaro (talk) 18:44, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Peter and Kintaro: fixing the dates is easy as I have a script (User:Ohconfucius/script/MOSNUM dates.js) to do that, and I've just run it. Spellings are harder, but quite possible, even on an article as large as this. I've met Anthony at Manchester wiki-meetups and he's a Brit (as am I), so perhaps en-gb is likely to be the preferred variant? I'll leave it a day or two, but in the absence of any strong opposition, I'll use a manual search and replace in an external editor to change "meters" to "metres" and "ization" to "-isation", which will account for most of the mixtures. --RexxS (talk) 01:56, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
- Agreement on a standard is the main thing. If a week goes by without a significant contributor commenting, it is not unreasonable to assume there are no significant objections. Regarding date format, I prefer the month as a word, because it is absolutely unambiguous, so cannot confuse anyone no matter whether the day is written before or after the month. I am in the habit of using the same date format that displays for me in my WP signature. I don't know if that is a setting or a default. Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 05:54, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you Peter, it's ok to me for the replacements you mentioned (I prefer -isation rather than -ization, metre rather than meter, theatre rather than theater, etc.). Regarding dates, please gentlemen carefully read Wikipedia:Date formattings. Thank you in advance. Kintaro (talk) 10:06, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
- Kintaro, I have carefully read Wikipedia:Date formattings. It seems to be fairly straightforward and compatible with what we are doing here. Am I missing something? · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 05:09, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
- Pbsouthwood, that's my point, Peter, IT IS fairly straightforward and compatible with what we are doing here... and, further more, apparently has to be applied, whether we like it or not. Cheerio! Kintaro (talk) 13:24, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
- OK, no problem then. Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 14:45, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
- Pbsouthwood, that's my point, Peter, IT IS fairly straightforward and compatible with what we are doing here... and, further more, apparently has to be applied, whether we like it or not. Cheerio! Kintaro (talk) 13:24, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
- Kintaro, I have carefully read Wikipedia:Date formattings. It seems to be fairly straightforward and compatible with what we are doing here. Am I missing something? · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 05:09, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you Peter, it's ok to me for the replacements you mentioned (I prefer -isation rather than -ization, metre rather than meter, theatre rather than theater, etc.). Regarding dates, please gentlemen carefully read Wikipedia:Date formattings. Thank you in advance. Kintaro (talk) 10:06, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
- Agreement on a standard is the main thing. If a week goes by without a significant contributor commenting, it is not unreasonable to assume there are no significant objections. Regarding date format, I prefer the month as a word, because it is absolutely unambiguous, so cannot confuse anyone no matter whether the day is written before or after the month. I am in the habit of using the same date format that displays for me in my WP signature. I don't know if that is a setting or a default. Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 05:54, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Peter and Kintaro: fixing the dates is easy as I have a script (User:Ohconfucius/script/MOSNUM dates.js) to do that, and I've just run it. Spellings are harder, but quite possible, even on an article as large as this. I've met Anthony at Manchester wiki-meetups and he's a Brit (as am I), so perhaps en-gb is likely to be the preferred variant? I'll leave it a day or two, but in the absence of any strong opposition, I'll use a manual search and replace in an external editor to change "meters" to "metres" and "ization" to "-isation", which will account for most of the mixtures. --RexxS (talk) 01:56, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
- 'evening mates. My preference goes to GB English too. In reference to the date format, well, right now I can't remember when... but once one Wikipedia fellow editor reproved me I wasn't using the "officially approved" policy. He pretended that here, in the English-language Wikipedia, the dates have to be expressed like in "on 20 January 2021" rather than "on January the 20th, 2021". I don't know if it's true, if whether or not there really is a consensus rule for the date, but since then I type "on 20 January 2021" (thus: dmy). Please let me know your views. Kintaro (talk) 18:44, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
Reorganise strictly sequentially
[edit]I propose to reorganise the content in strictly chronological order, which is much simpler to edit, and does not require one to guess which subtopic best applies to an event, or duplications where it may be relevant to more than one subtopic. This will probably mean arranging by centuries, or possible groups or parts thereof. If there are no objections I will go ahead with this after a week. · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 07:02, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
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