Talk:Reich Chancellery
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"Warlord"
[edit]I changed references to Hitler as 'Nazi warlord' to 'Nazi leader' - warlord has a specific (and perjorative) connotation. While I realise Hitler is fair game for stronger terms than that (!) I think it's irrelevant here. 80.43.82.9 12:19, 19 April 2007 (UTC) Ed
Spelling
[edit]Why "Chancellory" and not "Chancellery"? Ottens 20:46, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- the term is interchangeable as far as definition - it is a matter of preference as far as I have seen. unsigned comment by 70.93.73.173 21:38, July 23, 2005 (UTC)
- I too would prefer to see the spelling chancellery. Though the other form (as well as yet others) are recognized as valid by the Oxford English Dictionary, I have never seen an English-language reference to this chancellery — the German Reichkanzlei — using any form other than chancellery.
- I recently made several additions to the article and changed spelling to the form I preferred (as above), but did not go so far as to change the article title. JonRoma 03:18, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
Requested move
[edit]- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the debate was: As the move seemed non-controversial and clearcut (cf Google test), I've done it. Rd232 talk 19:25, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
Reich Chancellory → Reich Chancellery – The form "chancellery" is considered by the Oxford English Dictionary, Merriam-Webster, et al to be the "main" spelling, and all English-language material relating to this chancellery known to the proposer uses this form. — JonRoma 04:17, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
- Support for the "Chancellery" spelling. Ottens 15:55, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
- Support the move as well. Jbetak 16:27, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
Old Chancellery
[edit]This article needs some material about the Old Reich Chancellery further up the Wilhelmstrasse(1877-1939). Adam 05:34, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
This charming Russian neo-Nazi website has a large gallery of photos of the Chancellery. I'm a bit dubious about the ethics of linking to it, however. (And what a monstrosity it was - bravo the Russkis for blowing it up.) Adam 14:08, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
- "Russian" and "neo-Nazi" are contradictions in terms - while a Russian can be a fascist, he cannot, by definition, support National Socialism, where he is relegated as sub-human and not fit to exist.
Mentioning of irrelevant data is distracting
[edit]This article is about a building from the architect Albert Speer sr. Therefore the information "the later Armaments Minister and convicted war criminal" is irrelevant and distracting here, because it has nothing to do with the Old Chancellery. Who wants to know more about the person Speer can find this information in the article about him, which is the appropriate place for it. Mentioning that the architect later became convicted for war crimes is POV, because it defames him for reasons which have nothing to do with this activity. --Otto 18:11, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
Merge of Voßstraße
[edit]I support this; it may provide an end to the silly eszett war. I would suggest that the compromise there employed be extended: that the street names follow English practice, which is normally Strasse, but the addresses be -straße with numeral, as befits a foreign word used in English.
I do not support a merge to Wilhelmstrasse, because that will not solve the problem. There the use of Wilhelmstrasse for the Foreign Ministry is sourced; perhaps it should be merged there. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 18:36, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Merge with German Chancellery
[edit]The majority of both articles discuss the buildings used by the office of the Chancellor of Germany, and it only seems logical that they should be merged, or at the very least referenced to each other.Zenithian (talk) 22:33, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
- They are two completely separate complexes and therefore should not be merged, any more than we should merge say Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle. 01:21, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
There is a third Reich Chancellery: Kleine Reichskanzlei at Berchtesgaden. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.230.93.31 (talk) 01:50, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
- Edit: In the website Adam linked to, there is a picture of a model of the RK and its location in Germania. You can see that the Old Reich Chancellery (P. Schulnburg) appears with a double façade. Any info about that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.230.93.31 (talk) 01:56, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
Can read German?
[edit]No relevance to the article, just so (if you can): [1], on the chinese restaurant mentioned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by G-41614 (talk • contribs) 08:28, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
Article should be splitted
[edit]There should be three articles:
- Reich Chancellery about the instution/organisational unit (which is abstract)
- Old Reich Chancellery about the first building (which is an object/thing)
- New Reich Chancellery about the second building
That would be the correct relation between lemma (morphology) and representation term, i.e. relation of word and meaning (see semiotic triangle).--Chianti (talk) 09:05, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
Breslau/Wrocław building
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Chancellery (and sort of a government) only began in 1878
[edit]Sparafucil, you've understood that wrong, and maybe the article should be clarified. It's not about the building, the Chancellery just did not exist before 1878, which was the time when a first real government developed, although nowadays these civil cervant posts couldn't really be considered a government. Before there had only been Chancellor Bismarck as a one-man-government plus the Foreign Office and the Navy Office (which were both a transfer of the respective Prussian offices). That's because the Empire was a federal state without any formal government, instead with the Federal Council (Bundesrat) made up of delegates from all states as the Empire's formally highest constitutional body, the Chancellor in theory only being a non-political civil servant that had to execute what that body decided and not leading any federal government. A Chancellery, founded already in 1867 as Federal Chancellery, was the only office he had to support him fulfill these duties. When the portfolio of independent departments was enlarged around 1878, developing a real government, the Chancellery from 1867, as it had mostly dealt with the interior administrative issues, was directly renamed the Office of the Interior, while the 1878 Reich Chancellery was newly founded as an office presiding over the others instead of managing almost everything alone.
The 1867 Chancellery should either get its own little article or be integrated into the article of Germany's Interior Ministry. --SamWinchester000 (talk) 07:46, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
Confusion
[edit]There is clearly confusion here between the new and the old Chancellery. It was the old one which was utterly wrecked and doubtless what Gromyko was describing, not Speer's Chancellery, which from the many photos, only suffered minor and easily repairable damage.2A00:23C4:B607:CF00:25C5:EA37:54FE:E304 (talk) 11:44, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
The political office or just the building?
[edit]This article seems to be mostly about the building(s). But the Reich Chancellery was a political office. A reader like me wanting to find information about the office headed by Chief of the Reich Chancellery Hans Lammers and his predecessors will find this article (or any other article for that matter, but this is where it certainly should be at) wanting. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 13:31, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
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