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Former good articleMesserschmitt Bf 109 was one of the Warfare good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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Explanation of "Flugzeugwerke"

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The article explains that "Bayerische Flugzeugwerke" literally [means] "Bavarian Aircraft Works", meaning "Bavarian Aircraft Factory". Isn't this explanation a bit of an overkill, as Works is used in English in the same way, e. g. Swindon Works? --KnightMove (talk) 06:11, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Well, that's what "Fleugzeugwerke" translates to. Are you suggesting we leave "Works" out of the translation because "anyone can see" that "Werke" obviously is the same as "works"? So we'd end up saying "Bayerische Flugzeugwerke means Bavarian Aircraft"? How else would you leave out the word "werke"? Flugzeugwerke = aircraft works. I don't see the problem. Even ignoring that, if it didn't say that, you'd have someone in the comments asking "doesn't "werke" mean "works/factory" in English? So why doesn't the translation include the word "works" in it?"AnnaGoFast (talk) 10:24, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The OP was stating that " ... . meaning "Bavarian Aircraft Factory" was unnecessary and that "Bayerische Flugzeugwerke" literally [means] "Bavarian Aircraft Works" in English was sufficient. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.149.173.127 (talk) 09:18, 19 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"Works" may equal "Werke" in some dialects of English, but not in all. "Factory" is used in the most used dialect. Lineagegeek (talk) 23:46, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Movie appearances

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so after world war 2 the produced aircraft that were look like Bf-109 are Ha-1112 ex: Battle Of Britain it used repainted Ha-1112 because the produced aircraft of the time are Ha-1112 that probably cheaper than remaining 109 Wibu in 1945 (talk) 23:20, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Performance and variants

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Considering the significant improvement of the performance of the Bf 109 over its career, wouldn't it be relevant to include specifications for a few models besides just the G series? There is a whole page about Bf 109 variants but it gives nothing about speed, only power, range, armament, etc. The only performance stats given on either page is for the G-6. How much faster is a G-6 than an E-4? I came here specifically because I was curious to find that out and it seems strange that it simply isn't mentioned anywhere. If it is it's buried somewhere at random in the text and I didn't notice it. That can't be obscure information that just isn't available. Idumea47b (talk) 21:05, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is convention in the aircraft project to include specifications from one variant only. The variant chosen is usually the most numerous or representative of the type, discussions to change the variant take place on the article talk pages. The guideline is to prevent an unencyclopedic wall of numbers. Comparison between variants is also discouraged (comparison articles and tables in articles) for the same reason, airliner articles often ignore this. The rationale is that Wikipedia is a general encyclopedia and the information that readers seek is contained in specialist publications/monographs etc. This is a wiki wide concept mostly stemming from WP:NOT, the aircraft project conventions follow the policy, if they don't then someone usually notes it and complains. Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 07:47, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]