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Multiple image caption
[edit]@Baqotun0023: I don't understand how is it difficult for mobile user to read the caption, instead it makes it easier to read the caption. This format recently used in many popular page like New York City and Beijing, which is a good trend in my opinion. Hddty (talk) 15:13, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
- Seeing the condition of the small photo montage (especially the monas picture), it seems that there are a few words that are cut off. So it's better if the caption is just below.
- This case also covers the city of Tokyo, and Seoul Baqotun0023 (talk) 02:58, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
- It looks normal to me. If there's a bug you can leave a message at Template talk:Multiple image. Hddty (talk) 02:54, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
- Remember because Image captions can already be separated and follow the latest trends, and it seems that for the city Seoul, and Tokyo the exception is because the images are very small and there are several words that are separated from the image range. So I agree with your opinion Baqotun0023 (talk) 06:15, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
- It looks normal to me. If there's a bug you can leave a message at Template talk:Multiple image. Hddty (talk) 02:54, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
Jakarta in Popular Culture/The Last of Us
[edit]Why didn't you guys add a popular culture section where Jakarta got mentioned and got a visual presentation in The Last of Us TV series?
(Sorry, bad English) ChocoSauce79 (talk) 15:59, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- See MOS:POPCULT. If you have a reliable source about Jakarta that considers this trivia worth mentioning, we can think about it. Just because topic A plays a significant role for topic B, this doesn't mean that topic B is relevant for topic A.
Java Is Not The Most Populous Island
[edit]According to the Wikipedia article about Salsette Island in India, that island has an area of about 619 km² and an estimated population of over 23,729,378, giving it a population density of 38,335/km². There is some variation to this estimate on different Wikipedia pages, but the lowest estimate tells us that there are at least 20,000/km² on that island.
In the first paragraph of this topic, the hyperlink pointing to a list of the most densely populated islands with populations of greater than 10 million people, shows us that Java is listed second, with a population density of 'only' 1,196 people per km².
The statement in the opening paragraph that Java is 'the world's most populous island' is therefore incorrect.
I cannot see how to edit that erroneous statement, because no 'edit' link to the paragraph is visible in my browser. If someone with the authority to make that correction could do so, then that would be appreciated. Thank-you. 86.17.111.203 (talk) 01:41, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
- Most populous is not most dense. Juxlos (talk) 02:36, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
- In other words, this is a non-issue and no change is required. IIRC, Hong Kong has greater density, but text refers to total population not density. Martindo (talk) 05:41, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
Slogan
[edit]The "currently maintained" slogan of Jakarta in this page, the "Jakarta Kota Kolaborasi", was cited to the Pergub DKI no. 58 Tahun 2020, but it seems I couldn't find any mention in the regulation that the exact phrase was used as a slogan of the provincial government. The regulation instead established and regulated the usage of +Jakarta as the city/province's branding mark. According to this article by Tempo, it's explained that the "branding" and "slogan" are two different things. The branding, which is the +Jakarta, is indeed was established through the aforementioned regulation, while the slogan is "words referencing the governor's vision". Although later in the article it was mentioned that the "kota kolaborasi" is the slogan of the branding, it wasn't mentioned that it's the slogan of the provincial government.
As further explained in the article, the previous governor Anies Baswedan's slogan was "Maju Kotanya, Bahagia Warganya", which was replaced by the current acting governor's slogan "Sukses Jakarta Untuk Indonesia" or SJUI. The SJUI is not intended to replace the +Jakarta branding, as stated by one of the province's official Raides Aryanto in the article, that replacing the branding meant that they also needed to draft a new regulation.
As of this writing, the hidden text located in the slogan section of infobox mentioned that SJUI slogan cannot be applied because the incumbent "Acting" Governor aren't allowed to change previous governor policies, which in this case he wasn't. The "Maju Kotanya, Bahagia Warganya" slogan isn't codified in any regulation(s), therefore SJUI slogan did not contradict the Pergub 58/2020 which regulated the "currently de jure" +Jakarta branding.
I do aware that the current Acting Governor Heru Budi Hartono has his share of controversies, but I believe Wikipedia has WP:NPOV policy, and as of now it was Heru Budi's administration therefore we should use the most up to date slogan. 158.140.182.10 (talk) 15:38, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Agree with IP editor, as "SJUI" is sourced and there is regulation that explicitly state SJUI as well, see Kepgub No 292 Tahun 2023 tentang Cita Provinsi. Ckfasdf (talk) 21:15, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- It appears that I have come across information regarding this decision, and it seems that the SJUI slogan does not eliminate the wordmark +Jakarta, as stipulated in PERGUB 58 TAHUN 2020. Hence, I concur and propose changing the slogan to SJUI. Baqotun0023 (talk) 01:57, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 16 March 2024
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Numerous anonymous accounts frequently update irrelevant images in infoboxes, failing to accurately represent the city. It is imperative to have protection on this page to deter ongoing vandalism. Newpicarchive (talk) 10:07, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
Numerous anonymous accounts frequently update irrelevant images in infoboxes, failing to accurately represent the city. It is imperative to have protection on this page to deter ongoing vandalism. Newpicarchive (talk) 10:10, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- answered=yes ShakiraFandom (talk) 10:13, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
Numerous anonymous accounts frequently update irrelevant images in infoboxes, failing to accurately represent the city. It is imperative to have protection on this page to deter ongoing vandalism. Newpicarchive (talk) 10:38, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
Not done: requests for increases to the page protection level should be made at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. IMHO, there doesn't seem to be enough vandalism to warrant protection, mostly just content disputes, in which case normal dispute resolution procedures should be attempted first. Liu1126 (talk) 12:08, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
Copyright problem removed
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Too many images in the article
[edit]I believe this article has a "too many images" issue. For example, the Colonial era section has three images, with two on the left and one on the right. We should adhere to the guidelines in MOS:IMAGES and start correcting this.
According to MOS:IMAGESYNTAX, Most images should be on the right side of the page, which is the default placement
, so at the very least, all images should be moved to the right. Additionally, placing images on the left can create text sandwiching issues, which are generally discouraged by MOS:SANDWICH. MOS:IMAGESYNTAX also states that An image should generally be placed in the most relevant article section
. When there are too many images, they can end up far below the intended section, leading to confusion for readers. So, I may start trimming the images in the article based on the guidelines. Ckfasdf (talk) 17:16, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
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Do you even know what image sandwiching is? It's when two images are parallel left and right, and this article doesn't have any. Images can be staggered left and right it's no problem, and no article has all left or right positions for the pics. Where do you get this 'rule' from?? It is normal for a city as big as Jakarta to have many pics! I suggest you reread the guideline rule. Compare this to Jakarta's sister city Los Angeles: it has more pictures than Jakarta and no one is having a problem with it, so why are you so pressed with Jakarta? Put up that too many images sign on LA article. I suggest you to discuss before making any big changes to any article. Rantemario (talk)
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