Talk:Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh
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Vinaysk03 (talk) 18:11, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
Your comment on RSS supporting British govt is wrong...here is the history
Rashtriya Swayamsewak Sangh is a Bhartiya organisation made up of Indian male volunteers dedicated to establishment of the supremacy of Indian cultural Ethos in Indian consciousness.
It is determined to nurturing a nationalistic outlook among its volunteers and to forge a character of service before self.
As volunteers of the RSS , the members work during natural calamities, pandemics etc. offering free service as part of their civic / national duty.
However, the RSS is strictly an apolitical organisation that goes to any length to ensure that it does not take up political issues and does not allow any political discussions on any of its fora.
During the Indian Freedom Struggle the RSS volunteers were not allowed to represent the RSS in the freedom movement or contribute to the freedom struggle on behalf of the RSS; but they were free to participate, wholeheartedly, in their individual capacity or even as members of any other organisation.
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — DaxServer (t·m·e·c) 18:48, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
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change "the initial impetus of the organisation was to provide character training and instil "Hindu discipline" in order to unite the Hindu community and establish a Hindu Rashtra (Hindu nation).[16][17] The organisation aims to spread the ideology of Hindutva to "strengthen" the Hindu community and promotes an ideal of upholding an Indian culture and its civilizational values.[2][18] On the other hand, the RSS has been described as "founded on the premise of Hindu supremacy",[19] and has been accused of an intolerance of minorities, in particular anti-Muslim activities.[20]" to "the initial impetus of the organisation was for the welfare of entire mankind, Bharath must stand before the world as a self-confident, resurgent and mighty nation. Even at the inception, the Sangh was viewed by its founder not as a sectoral activity, but as a dynamic power-house energizing every field of national activity.Expressed in the simplest terms, the ideal of the Sangh is to carry the nation to the pinnacle of glory through organizing the entire society. Verily this is the one real national as well as global mission." 106.222.222.246 (talk) 03:52, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
Paramilitary?
[edit]By Wikipedia's own definition "A paramilitary is a military that is not part of a country's official or legitimate armed forces." RSS is not a social and cultural organization, it's not an armed paramilitary organization. This is totally bizarre and misleading characterization. It is a legal organization within India and they're not armed or trained like soldiers. Yasarhossain07 (talk) 16:56, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed. If no objections, I'd like to remove this by end of week.
- In general, this article is full of NPOV violations even if yes the characterizations are sourced by some book I can't readily access. Calling the RSS a "far-right" group is also quite questionable (the BJP typically wins over a third of the vote in India - it's solidly in the mainstream), and I can only find rather left-wing sources making that claim. Usaar33 (talk) 21:22, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, please omit the word paramilitary for describing the RSS Deepti du 27 (talk) 20:16, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- the use of the word "paramilitary" is backed by several well known sources and any removal in the introductory part of the article should only be done through a vote. DataCrusade1999 (talk) 13:28, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, please omit the word paramilitary for describing the RSS Deepti du 27 (talk) 20:16, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
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Remove This Line. During the colonial period, the RSS collaborated with the British Raj and played no role in the Indian independence movement. 103.177.252.103 (talk) 19:05, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Why, exactly? Such a statement cites these two sources, both of which seems pretty reliable to me:
- Lal, Vinay (2003). The History of History: Politics and Scholarship in Modern India. Oxford University Press. p. 2. ISBN 978-0-19-566465-2.
Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), the paramilitary organization which advocates a militant Hinduism and a Hindu polity in modern India, not only played no role in the anti-colonial struggle but actively collaborated with the British.
- Bhatt, Chetan (2020). Hindu Nationalism: Origins, Ideologies and Modern Myths. Routledge. p. 99. ISBN 978-1-000-18104-3.
RSS was not considered an adversary by the British. On the contrary, it gave loyal consent to the British to be part of the Civic Guard.
- Lal, Vinay (2003). The History of History: Politics and Scholarship in Modern India. Oxford University Press. p. 2. ISBN 978-0-19-566465-2.
- ZionniThePeruser (talk) 22:23, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
Not done: The passage in question is reliably sourced. — kashmīrī TALK 23:18, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
Update total Shakhas Count.
[edit]Add the updated number of Shakhas as 72,000 as of 2024. Refer this article -https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/rss-plans-to-have-one-lakh-shakhas-appoint-2-500-new-pracharaks-in-country-101679053852365.html#:~:text=tThere%20are%20currently%2072%2C000%20shakhas%20in%20the%20country Pratik.S2005 (talk) 06:08, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
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Please remove the word "Paramilitary" because RSS is a non profit organization which works for all the communities in india.They do social services, disaster management and festival management,so word Paramilitary is misleading 43.242.225.12 (talk) 16:55, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: reliable sources describe it as a paramilitary organization (t · c) buidhe 13:51, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
Remove the word paramilitary
[edit]Please remove the description that RSS is a paramilitary organisation from your third line. RSS does not fall under the purview of this definition and it is offensive too to call it a paramilitary organisation. Deepti du 27 (talk) 20:19, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
Not done, since this is how multiple reliable sources call the RSS.[1][2][3][4][5] — kashmīrī TALK 20:25, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- I agree that one can not have original research on Wikipedia but basically the only "weapons training" the RSS conducts is how to use sticks, hardly a sign of a paramilitary force.Anyhow, it is for the RSS to correct the perception.Thanks.Jonathansammy (talk) 15:58, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
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