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Nicole and Natalie

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Fails WP:NALBUM DonaldD23 talk to me 02:37, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Cubana de Aviación destinations

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Fails WP:NOT, WP:NCORP.

WP:NOT is failed because this is a complete listing of the services of a company. As such it is excluded under WP:NOTCATALOG no. 6 which states that "Listings to be avoided include [...] products and services". It is also an indiscriminate listing - all destinations ever flown to, however briefly,. are listed without any attempt to summarise them which is against WP:IINFO.

WP:NCORP (which applies to the services of companies as well as the companies themselves) is failed because none of the sources here are independent, third-party, reliable sources. This article is entirely sourced either to the company website or to run-of-the-mill articles based on company press-releases and statements and trade-press coverage. Additionally, many of the links are 404, making them fail verifiability - indeed one is actually a link to what appears to be a review of the film Cars 3.

The overwhelming majority of destinations listed here are listed as "Terminated" so this list is also un-necessary, and already adequately covered by the sentence "Cubana operates flights to over 20 destinations in Cuba, Europe, the Caribbean, North, Central and South America" in the main article. To the extent that there is any encyclopaedic interest in Cubana's previous destinations, this is already covered by the page History of Cubana de Aviación. This page is therefore entirely redundant. FOARP (talk) 16:26, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom, various WP:NOT violations. Rosbif73 (talk) 06:23, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment As I said in other deletion discussions regarding airline destinations, in the case of mass removal of these articles I will quit Wikipedia for good. I have neither the time nor the will to discuss this over and over again.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 21:14, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:IINFO. As the flag carrier of Cuba, Cubana de Aviación certainly has a unique history, and it is entirely appropriate to discuss the development of its route network over time, which people have done in the parent article. What I cannot support is a list of every single city this airline has flown to since it was established almost a century ago. I see no need for us to document that at one point in its existence Cubana flew to some random destination that appears in its 1949 timetable. Such a list falls outside the scope of our encyclopedia.
As a side note the link mentioned above can be found in the Internet Archive where it leads to an article about Cubana flights to Martinique. Sunnya343 (talk) 01:53, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per repeated precedent. The closure of the most recent one I remember cited Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive296#Mass deletion of pages - question of protocol, Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 141#RFC: Should Wikipedia have lists of transportation service destinations?, Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 140#Should Wikipedia have and maintain complete lists of airline destinations?, Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject Airports/Archive 15#Request for comments on the Airlines and destinations tables and Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 187#RfC on the "Airlines and destinations" tables in airport articles in determining that there is no consensus for deletion. In the AfD review the "no consensus" close was endorsed, a number of paths forward were suggested to those trying to delete these articles to establish a new consensus. Instead, it seems that these disruptive nominations are continuing. Worth noting that there was yet another discussion about Aeroflot destinations also earlier this year which resulted in keep. Do we have to keep doing this? Avgeekamfot (talk) 15:09, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The last ten AFDs on Airline destination lists have all closed as delete/merge (see here), and roughly 2/3rd of the Airline destination lists that were ever created (~300 out of ~470) have now been deleted. Well-attended AFDs included this one deleting 120 airline destination articles and this one deleting 82 airline destination articles. One of these deletion discussions was also endorsed on review.

Moreover discussions about what lists to include on Airport articles are pretty irrelevant to an article that is not an Airport article, and a no-consensus close cannot be used to assert a consensus in favour of any particular outcome. FOARP (talk) 09:03, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - This article includes the statement: "Frankfurt is currently a terminated destination for the airline". This appears to be based on a comparison of primary sources (a listing of destinations in the 1996 World Airline Directory - a sort of Yellow Pages for airlines, and a listing of destinations in a drop-down menu on the Cubana website from 2010). How is this kind of synthesis of primary sources to reach a conclusion that neither states not original research?

The reality is, this isn't a defensible statement, because there's a number of different explanations as to why an airline might have had a destination listed in a directory in 1996 but not be offering that service in 2010. These include an error in the original listing, the Frankfurt service being planned but never actually started, and the Frankfurt service still operating in 2010 but not being listed by mistake. Moreover since no date is given for the list, the implication is that this service is still not being offered now, when in reality we only know that it wasn't being offered in 2010 - and in reality Cubana are selling flights from Frankfurt on their website right now.

This kind of original research/verifiability problem is present throughout this corpus of articles. Indeed, the article under discussion is largely made up of services listed as "terminated" based on identically-flawed reasoning. FOARP (talk) 12:58, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 02:01, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Behind the Screams

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No actual reviews found, just interviews and press release type material from niche horror publications, which aren't even reviews. The best source is this, which while including an interview is preceded by several paragraphs of evaluative seemingly independent material, so I would count it. However, there is nothing else. Could add to List of A Nightmare on Elm Street media and redirect. PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:15, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep: Very week, the Bloody Disgusting source is a RS per Project Horror, and I've found this [1], which seems ok. No book reviews I can find, but two articles about the book. That's about all I can pull up. I'm happy to revisit if others can find better sourcing. Oaktree b (talk) 02:25, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For the record, the article you linked is what I mentioned in my nom, hahaha - yes, that source is fine, wish there was more like it. My issue with the Bloody Disgusting source is that it was prior to its release and doesn't really say much useful about it, simply quoting the author and saying the book would come out. PARAKANYAA (talk) 02:34, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Introduction to Comparative Politics

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This seems to be a very highly cited academic book. In any case I was not able to find anything on the book itself or any of its editions; my effort was confounded by the amount of citations that say nothing about it, but I did try, and came up empty PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:05, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Euthanasia: Opposing Viewpoints

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Fails WP:NBOOK. It is briefly covered in a listing in an issue of Issues in Law & Medicine, but not significantly, and there is an actual review in Booklist available on ProQuest, but that is only one and NBOOK needs two. It is part of the Opposing Viewpoints series, which is notable from my searches. Redirect there? PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:25, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Lacey and His Friends

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I was unable to find any sources on this short story collection. The only non-primary source I found that mentions it is a passing mention in a booklist review of another work by Drake and non-sigcov in this bibliography. Redirect to author David Drake? PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:12, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I don't see any reviews of this book/collection of stories in Gnewspapers from the period, nor do I find any elsewhere... I don't think a redirect would help, it doesn't seem to be a well-known work by this author. I don't see notability and the lack of sources doesn't help. Oaktree b (talk) 02:36, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment better redirect would be David Drake bibliography, where it's mentioned. PARAKANYAA (talk) 02:39, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]