Talk:1976 Summer Olympics
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Olympic Flame
[edit]"The Olympic Flame was electronically transmitted from Athens to Ottawa." - How the BLEEP did they do that, or get away with the claim that they were doing it? It makes no SENSE. My puny research skills aren't up to it but this bit of PR gibberish bugs me.
- Indeed, it seems pretty irresponsible to me to glibly make such a claim and not explain it. A tiny bit of research revealed something about pulses by satellite, which I have added. I agree with your assessment of PR gibberish, but hey, it was the 70s. Jeeves 14:27, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Fix was in
[edit]Nadia got 7 perfect 10s, it turns out, because the Sovs conspired to push the individual scores higher, so they'd win the team title. Trekphiler 17:57, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
- Source? — Jonel | Speak 18:33, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
Pierre Trudeau
[edit]Please do NOT remove information that Pierre Trudeau was from Montreal. He was the prime minister during the Olympics and he was from the host city of the Olympics. SNIyer12 18:37, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
- What did he have to do with the Olympics? -- Jonel | Speak 13:33, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
- That's stupid. Are you going to document every national leader from a host city in every Olympics article? 132.205.44.134 22:55, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
Boycott
[edit]Information from the IOC bulletin Olympic Review contradicts to the information in this article (the source of which is BBC - see the 2nd external link) - e.g. Mali boycotted the Games, etc. However, I have no idea, how this could be corrected. Cmapm 11:10, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
- As I read that IOC bulletin and the BBC report, the BBC says 26 countries (25 African) and lists 23. The IOC lists 29. We list 26. Discrepancies are -
- Cameroon - WP and IOC, not BBC
- Guyana - WP and IOC, not BBC
- Mali - IOC, not WP and BBC
- Mauritius - WP and BBC, not IOC
- IOC does not list in the participating NOC section. Had not previously competed.
- Morocco - WP and IOC, not BBC
- Swaziland - IOC, not WP and BBC
- Tunisia - IOC, not WP and BBC
- Zaire - IOC, not WP and BBC
- IOC lists this as non-political, so not a boycott.
- My recommendation would be to add Mali, Swaziland, and Tunisia to the list of boycotting countries. Add a note that Zaire did not compete, but claimed financial causes rather than political. Remove Mauritius from the list. Source it all to the IOC document. -- Jonel | Speak 13:31, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for clarifying this. I agree with you, introduced changes proposed here into the article and removed tags. If someone will object to this, feel free to say it here. Cmapm 14:05, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
- A couple of countries were listed as both competing and in the boycott - Nigeria, Kenya and Ethiopia. I have removed Nigeria & Kenya and will list Ethiopia at the 1976 Summer Olympics for deletion since it did not participate. -- Astrokey44|talk 14:09, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
- Heh, didn't even think to check that. Good work. -- Jonel | Speak 04:40, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
- Made this map from the info from the IOC bulletin just to try and figure this out - the blue countries did not officially withdraw, but did not compete either -- Astrokey44|talk 09:47, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Demonstration sports
[edit]Apparently, the organizing committee for the 1976 games allowed for the demonstration sports of lacrosse and water skiing, but the IOC decided not to have them on the programme. [Reference here]. I have no idea where to put this tidbit of info. Highlights? Medals awarded?
- The "Medals awarded" section, which probably should have its name changed to "Sports", is typically where such things go. As a side note, I think it's unfortunate that demonstration sports aren't held any more. As another side note, great work! -- Jonel | Speak 00:11, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, I agree that that section should be changed to "Sports". It appears that many Olympic game pages have "medals awarded" instead of "sports". Anyway, yeah, I think it's too bad that there aren't any demonstartion sports anymore. It was a great way for countries to showcase a sport that was popular within the host country. I can understand it though. The Olympics have gotten huge and they needed to cut down on costs. As far as that reference goes, you can access all the official reports from all the Olympic games till the 2002 Olympics here: http://www.aafla.org/5va/reports_frmst.htm
- It says "medals awarded" on many of them because a lot have exactly that much information on the links in the section. I've been working on putting more in (see esp. 1908 Summer Olympics and its sports pages). AAFLA (both official reports and the other documents they have), Herman's Full Olympians, and Bill Mallon's books have been my primary sources for early Olympics. I recommend them all. -- Jonel | Speak 02:03, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
That site has all the information you could ever want on the Olympics and I think should be incorperated in ALL the wikipedia entries.
Boycott clarification needed
[edit]I find the information about the boycott difficult to understand. Can someone please clarify? Why did some African nations boycott? --geekyßroad. meow? 06:58, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
- Earlier in 1976 the All Blacks toured South Africa in breach of a Commonwealth agreement which prohibited sporting links with South Africa. The boycotting nations were protesting New Zealand's violation of Gleneagles. Lisiate 00:07, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
That info needs to be in the article, with a source, of course. Right now the article makes no sense at all. 79.138.157.194 (talk) 02:03, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Montreal Debt
[edit]Why isn't the fact that the Olympics were an economic fiasco mentioned? —Preceding unsigned comment added by MrInitialMan (talk • contribs) 01:34, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
- It is. See under "highlights" Peter Ballard (talk) 23:47, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Taiwan
[edit]Here, it says China (Taiwan) boycotted the 1976 games, but according to what I have learned, the Canadian government did not permit Taiwan to participate. I will try to find a source and amend the article accordingly. ludahai 魯大海 (talk) 03:49, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
A Brief Outline for 1976 Summer Olympics Opening Ceremonies.
[edit]July 17, 1976 16:02 hours.
The ceremony started with a fanfarre of trumpets and inmediatly the announcer in French and English announces the arrive to the official stand of honour of HM Queen Elizabeth II accompanied by HRH Prince Philip, Prince Andrew, Roger Rouseau chairman of the Organising Committee and IOC President Lord Killanin. After this a group of youth from the five continents sang O Canada. The announcers declares in French and English that the Greek delegation like tradition and according to the Olympic rules starts with the parade of the 94 participating national delegations. Opposite to the stand of honour the Montreal Olympic Orchestra under the baton of Victor Vogel plays his work "The March of Athletes" which follows like background the parade of the athletes.
After the contigents have taken up their positions in the pitch of the Montreal Olympic Stadium crowded by 73,000 spectators the IOC president Lord Killanin and Roger Rouseau addresses. At 16.34 hours after invitate by Lord Killanin hER Majesty Queen Elizabeth II declares the Games of the XXI Olympiad open.
With a fanfarre is announced the arrival of the Olympic Flag to the Montreal Olympic Stadium carried by eight male athletes and four female athletes representing the Canadian provincies. After that is announcing the ceremony of the Olympic flag handover from Munich to Montreal. Accompaning by 64 dancers, 16 musicians and eight singers wearing Bavarian costumes having like background the strains of the Bayerisch Delifirthe Olympic flag enters to the Olympic stadium through the marathon gate and by the northwest gate of the stadium a group of Montreal troupe enters wearing costumes of the of St.Lawrence Valley formed with the same number of dancers,musicians and singers.In this moment George Kronawiter mayor of Munich passes the Olympic flag to Lord Killanin and he passed it to the mayor of Montreal Jean Drapeau. The troupe dances a suite of Quebec music next the Munich and Montreal dancers performs a waltz-lancers to Bavarian and Quebec tunes and finally headed by the Olympic bearer the dancers leaves the stadium moving to the northwest exit.
After a three salva salutes was fired by members of the 5th Light Artillery Regiment of the Canadian forces in the Olympic Park. As the third shot was fired 80 young women releases pigeons carried a message of peace and friendship to the world. When the pigeons turns to the sky and wheel a fanfarre announces the entry of the Olympic Flame by two athletes: From Toronto Sandra Henderson and Stéphane Prefontaine from Montreal representing the two founding peoples of Canada. run around the track,and, when they reach the other side of the stadium, opposite the royal box,they move through a corridor six metres wide in the middle of the athletes and climb the stairs to the Olympic urn erected in the centre of the stadium. They salute the four points of the compass and light the urn.
the flag-bearers of the 94 national teams formed a semi-circle behind the dais, which the Canadian flag-bearer mounted, and then stood with an athlete from the Canadian delegation and a judge in this case the athlete was the weightlifter Pierre Saint-Jean and took the oath in French and English and for the judges was Maurice Forget.
Finally the opening ceremonies concludes perfoming the national Canadian anthem by the Olympic chorus and orchestra.--Nekko09 (talk) 04:50, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
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tags on this page without content in them (see the help page). Official Report of the 1976 Summer Olympic Games volume I part II
Streaker The most memorable event in the opening ceremony was a male streaker running through the rings of dancers. This was before broadcasters routinely turned their cameras away to avoid giving streakers publicity consequently he was prominent in many pictures taken at that time. If anyone has a reliable reference this really should be noted.OrewaTel (talk) 07:12, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
Doping
[edit]Wasn't this the olympics where it was later uncovered the East German Women's Swimming team was doping (or was doped unknowingly)? I expected to see some mention of that. Gamecat42 (talk) 20:21, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Dead link
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Boycott clarification needed 2
[edit]It is unclear to me how many and which countries boycotted due to the New Zealand rugby tour of South Africa. The article lists 28 countries, but the source lists 22. On the NZ rugby team page they say 33, but the (different) source there says 25 and then lists 22 (but these 22 don't exactly match the 22 in the source from this article - for example there is a discrepancy about Mali vs. Malawi). Both these sources are pretty poor - a newspaper article about "On this day in 1976..." and a random, untitled PDF. I'm not sure how best to clean this up, maybe someone else wants to try?Paul55604 (talk) 16:07, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
- For people in the future, see continuation of this subject below at the "How many actually joined the boycott?" section. --MatthewJenkins02 (talk) 23:02, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
Missing Country? Burma?
[edit]In the article Boxing at the 1976 Summer Olympics lists four boxers with the country code "BUF". I'm not aware of any country ever using the code "BUF". This message board thread shows these boxers under "BUR", which I believe would be Burma. However, the list of participating countries on 1976 Summer Olympics does not show Burma or Myanmar. If we can in any way corroborate that these boxers competed then Burma should be added to the list. -Drdisque (talk) 03:28, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
- I have correct to "BUR". BUR is Burkina-Faso. However these athletes did note compete, because of BUR withdrew.--Nitobus (talk) 15:31, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
- OK, makes sense, I saw that the correct code for Burma was BIR and BUF makes more sense as an incorrect code for Burkina-Faso than Burma. All their listings on that Boxing page show their fighters as "walk-over" or even "double walk over" in two cases where both fighters were from boycotting African nations. However, shouldn't Burkina-Faso then be listed in the list of Non-participating NOC's? -Drdisque (talk) 16:12, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
- Burkina-Faso is already in this list by its old name Upper Volta.--Nitobus (talk) 18:15, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
Re-insertion of live name
[edit]Per current MOS:IDENTITY policy as laid out to me by admin Guy I am going to re-insert Caitlyn Jenner in this article (as I tried to last month) to soften her dead name and to clarify and wikilink to her live name. Per Guy we may need to go a step further and completely delete her dead name, as consensus is never permitted to override policy (that is another policy). There are ongoing WP:VPP discussions to tweak the MOS:IDENTITY policy. Cheers! Checkingfax (talk) 20:58, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
- Pardon? The current consensus is as per the closing of Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 121#MOS:IDENTITY clarification. Until a new consensus is established that's the consensus to live by. --Francis Schonken (talk) 07:11, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
- Francis Schonken, as admonished to me by admin Guy, consensus can never override POLICY. MOS:IDENTITY is the current POLICY. My plan soon is just to put her live name in parentheses and leave her dead name in the lead like I did last month. For today, I just pipe wikilinked from her live name to her dead name. Cheers! ...Checkingfax ( Talk ) 03:36, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- Current consensus isn't a "local" consensus, it was produced at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy) – that's where policy is decided. As for the update to MOS:IDENTITY: that's currently under discussion... at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy) – please participate in these two RfC discussions. Pending all that it is preferable to have "status quo" on this page, on the last established consensus. --Francis Schonken (talk) 05:30, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- But the WP:VPP discussions have not fruited any POLICY changes yet. We're stuck with WP:ACDS for now. Cheers! ...Checkingfax ( Talk ) 11:55, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- No, as I said from the outset, for now we're "stuck" (if that's the way you want to express it) with a community consensus that came into existence at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy). Discretionary sanctions only enter the scene when not abiding to consensus. --Francis Schonken (talk) 12:25, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- Francis Schonken, no new POLICY was fruited from that discussion per Drmies who wrote the conclusion and per admin Guy. You got a DS alert on June 23, 2015 alerting you that the DS covers all transgender (code pa) affiliated pages. You only have to be reminded once per year. You've also been reminded repeatedly to provide edit summaries, which you continue to fail to do. Cheers! ...Checkingfax ( Talk ) 13:00, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- And...? Not sure what you're trying to say here. Drmies' closure was clear on what it meant for this article, and that that was not to be seen as an infraction on the MoS. Sorry about edit summaries for talk page edits, I've not been "reminded repeatedly" that I should use them (I'm quite consciencious about using them for all other types of edits). Seems like the intent of your message is that I now should warn you formally about abiding to the current consensus, in view of the discreditionary sanctions status of this page. I go from the assumption you're bright enough to capture that without the "formal" part. Also, please again, participate in the current WP:VPP discussions about the WP:IDENTITY update. Better to be part of the consensus than advocate exceptions post factum, isn't it? --Francis Schonken (talk) 13:28, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- Francis Schonken, no new POLICY was fruited from that discussion per Drmies who wrote the conclusion and per admin Guy. You got a DS alert on June 23, 2015 alerting you that the DS covers all transgender (code pa) affiliated pages. You only have to be reminded once per year. You've also been reminded repeatedly to provide edit summaries, which you continue to fail to do. Cheers! ...Checkingfax ( Talk ) 13:00, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
Francis Schonken, Last month you removed Caitlyn Jenner's live name that was in parentheses and then took it a step further by removing the piped wikilink from her live name and replacing it with a dead named redirect wikilink. You totally nuked her live name and her hidden live named wikilink. How do you rationalize that? Especially after getting the ACDS warning back in June. ...Checkingfax ( Talk ) 13:58, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- The reasons were given in the edit summaries of the mainspace edits (usually a link to the closure of the VPP discussion), and further explained here, so I'm not sure what's more to be done. --Francis Schonken (talk) 14:23, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- Francis Schonken, I have posted the current MOS:IDENTITY template
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to the top of this Talk page. Please provide a reference to where this POLICY has been changed. When the POLICY is changed, the template text will automatically transclude. Thank you. Ping me back. Cheers! ...Checkingfax ( Talk ) 20:38, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- Francis Schonken, I have posted the current MOS:IDENTITY template
Dealing with transgender people in "X men and Y women"
[edit]"6,084 (4,824 men, 1,260 women)" is in the infobox. How do we deal with transgender people in figures like these?? Georgia guy (talk) 18:38, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
How many actually joined the boycott?
[edit]From http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/july/17/newsid_3555000/3555450.stm: "The list of those boycotting the Olympics is: Libya, Iraq, Kenya, Zambia, Nigeria, Gambia, Sudan, Ghana, Tanzania, Uganda, Algeria, Ethiopia, Madagascar, Central African Republic, Gabon, Chad, Togo, Niger, Congo, Mauritius, Upper Volta and Malawi."
That is 22, and from that list we can add Cameroon, Guyana, Mali, Swaziland, Egypt, Morocco, and Tunisia. So then it would add up to 29. The other non-participating NOCs didn't show up for other various reasons.1982vdven (talk) 18:28, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
- For further context, see this section of this talk page.
- The number of countries that boycotted in this article is most likely not accurate. If you're interested, this is elaborated on in this talk page, as many articles have this problem. --MatthewJenkins02 (talk) 23:47, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
Template at top of this talk page
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template at the top of this talk page that makes it clear that although the Caitlyn Jenner article is supposed to treat Jenner like a woman, this article is supposed to treat Jenner like a man per the "use context to decide" words. Any thoughts?? Georgia guy (talk) 00:36, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
Photo caption
[edit]"East German athletes Hans-Georg Reimann, Karl-Heinz Müller and Waldemar Cierpinski at the Olympic Village"
According to the wikilink provided, Karl-Heinz Müller was an Austrian athlete. There could conceivably have been a GDR athlete with a similar name, but having looked at Müller (surname) I see no obvious candidate. Can anyone shed any light? Harfarhs (talk) 07:47, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
Please extend the template
[edit]There's a template at the top of this talk page saying:
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This doesn't give any emphasis to how it applies to this article. Please emphasize this sentence so that it says something like (feel free to think of a better wording):
Contrary to consistency with the main Caitlyn Jenner article, which treats her as a woman, this article should treat her as a man because of its context.
Any thoughts on this?? Georgia guy (talk) 23:50, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
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