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  • Blurbs are one-sentence summaries of the news story.
    • Altblurbs, labelled alt1, alt2, etc., are alternative suggestions to cover the same story.
    • A target article, bolded in text, is the focus of the story. Each blurb must have at least one such article, but you may also link non-target articles.
  • Articles in the Ongoing line describe events getting continuous coverage.
  • The Recent deaths (RD) line includes any living thing whose death was recently announced. Consensus may decide to create a blurb for a recent death.

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  • Make sure the item you want to nominate has an article that meets our minimum requirements and contains reliable coverage of a current event you want to create a blurb about. We will not post about events described in an article that fails our quality standards.
  • Find the correct section below for the date of the event (not the date nominated). Do not add sections for new dates manually - a bot does that for us each day at midnight (UTC).
  • Create a level 4 header with the article name (==== Your article here ====). Add (RD) or (Ongoing) if appropriate.
Then paste the {{ITN candidate}} template with its parameters and fill them in. The news source should be reliable, support your nomination and be in the article. Write your blurb in simple present tense. Below the template, briefly explain why we should post that event. After that, save your edit. Your nomination is ready!
  • You may add {{ITN note}} to the target article's talk page to let editors know about your nomination.

The better your article's quality, the better it covers the event and the wider its perceived significance (see WP:ITNSIGNIF for details), the better your chances of getting the blurb posted.

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Archives of posted stories: Wikipedia:In the news/Posted/Archives

August 8

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August 8, 2024 (2024-08-08) (Thursday)

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RD: Kalatiku Paembonan

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Article: Kalatiku Paembonan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://toraja.inews.id/read/477729/mantan-bupati-toraja-utara-kalatiku-paembonan-meninggal-dunia-selamat-jalan-putra-terbaik-toraja
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 17:58, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Jack Karlson

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Article: Democracy Manifest (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

The Succulent Chinese Meal man. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 12:44, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Strong oppose and suggest close, he doesn't have his own Wikipedia article. 🔥Jalapeño🔥 Stupid stuff I did 12:46, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Jalapeño: There is precidence for this when we ran Barry Chuckle who also didn't have his own individual page. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 13:00, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Individuals who do not have their own article but who have significant coverage on an article about a group (e.g. one member of a musical group) are eligible for a recent deaths entry on a case-by-case basis. This is not one of those cases since this is not a group like the other one was.
Noah, BSBATalk 13:20, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support - the article is effectively about him since he's the central figure of the whole meme. Karlson's name is even bolded in in the article. — Knightoftheswords 14:52, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Per above, does not meet the criteria for WP:ITNRD. Estreyeria (talk) 15:00, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support He is the entirety of what appears in the video. Celjski Grad (talk) 15:02, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support Karlson is the central person of the topic. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 16:39, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose even taken into account that the central figure of the video is this person and that there us no standalone for him, the coverage of him in this article as a person is trivially short and indicates that he had little notability, the video itself was. Masem (t) 19:26, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Taberon Honie

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Article: Taberon Honie (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): APNews,
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

August 7

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August 7, 2024 (2024-08-07) (Wednesday)

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Banning of MFP

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Article: Move Forward Party (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Move Forward Party is dissolved and Pita Limjaroenrat (pictured), alongside other senior politicians from the party, are banned from politics by the Constitutional Court of Thailand. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ After being accused of wanting to amend the Lèse-majesté laws, the Move Forward Party and its executives are banned from politics by the Constitutional Court of Thailand.
Alternative blurb II: ​ The Move Forward Party is dissolved and its executives are banned from politics by the Constitutional Court of Thailand.
News source(s): NPR Al-Jazeera
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  • This is an important development in the flawed democracy of Thailand, specifically with the banning of the party exec. from politics; he was arguably the most popular politician in Thailand. While the MFP will move to a new party, the lingering effect will stay. River10000 (talk) 19:15, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Jon McBride

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Article: Jon McBride (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CollectSpace,
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

(Closed) Battle of Tinzaouaten (2024)

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WP:SNOW. The Kip (contribs) 18:12, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: Battle of Tinzaouaten (2024) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Mali and Niger cut diplomatic ties with Ukraine for its alleged involvement in a rebel attack that killed dozens of Malian troops and Russian mercenaries. (Post)
News source(s): Reuters Al Jazeera
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Though the attack occurred over a week ago, it has gained international attention after Mali cut ties with Ukraine for admitting, and then denying, involvement in an attack with high casualties. Also part of a trend of West African states pivoting towards Russia. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 12:26, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per above Ion.want.uu (talk) 14:48, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per above
Personisinsterest (talk) 16:50, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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August 6

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August 6, 2024 (2024-08-06) (Tuesday)

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Muhammad Yunus appointed as new interim leader

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Article: Muhammad Yunus (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Muhammad Yunus is appointed as the leader of the new, interim government of Bangladesh. (Post)
News source(s): Al Jazeera, BBC, France24
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Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Out with the old, in with the new. The current blurb about Sheik Hasina might be incorporated in this but the main thing is to report the new leader. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:31, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Yahya Sinwar appointed Hamas Chairman

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WP:SNOW close. Unlikely consensus to post. (non-admin closure) 🔥Jalapeño🔥 Stupid stuff I did 13:36, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: Yahya Sinwar (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Yahya Sinwar is named the chairman of the Hamas Political Bureau. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Yahya Sinwar is named the chairman of the Hamas Political Bureau following his predecessor, Ismail Haniyeh's, assassination.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Yahya Sinwar is named the chairman of the Hamas Political Bureau following his predecessor, Ismail Haniyeh's, assassination by Israeli forces.
News source(s): Al JazeeraReuters AP
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Support New Head of state, notable coverage in the media, currently relevant geopolitically Scu ba (talk) 22:47, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Strong oppose, Gaza is not a state but part of the Palestinian Territories, Hamas does govern Gaza partially, but it is ultimately a militant group. Not notable, covered by ongoing. Personisinsterest (talk) 00:52, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Personisinterest. The Hamas Political Bureau is not the recognised government. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 01:36, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose because Hamas is not a government, but a belligerent in an ongoing war. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 04:02, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
To play Devil's Advocate Hamas does organise a government that is the de facto ruling authority of parts of the Gaza Strip not occupied by Israel. However it can be mostly characterised as a militant terrorist group, and so I don't support blurbing this PrecariousWorlds (talk) 05:42, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) RD: Billy Bean

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Article: Billy Bean (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1]
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Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Not to be confused with Billy Beane. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:33, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Connie Chiume

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Article: Connie Chiume (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): SABC News
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

South African actress. 240F:7A:6253:1:89E1:1A66:9443:4B37 (talk) 18:04, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

August 5

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August 5, 2024 (2024-08-05) (Monday)

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(Closed) United States v. Google LLC (2020)

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Withdrawing, it seems as if it is snowing a bit. Probably need to wait it out. Awesome Aasim 17:50, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: United States v. Google LLC (2020) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A district court rules that Google illegally held a monopoly in online search. (Post)
News source(s): [2] [3]
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This is one of my first in the news nominations, but I think this is something that should be discussed on the Main Page. I don't think the article is sufficiently updated at this time, but I do anticipate that it will be soon. Awesome Aasim 02:11, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose but only because we have no idea what the remedies are yet. If the court forces Alphabet to sell off Google, that might be somethiung, but if its just a multi-million dollar fine, that would be a slap on the wrist. — Masem (t) 02:39, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose because this lacks sufficient due weight for ITN, and is still playing out. Google will likely appeal the ruling, and the article needs more information.JohnAdams1800 (talk) 04:00, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose; this is still an ongoing event. While the ruling itself would be landmark and historical, it could still get overturned on appeal. We’d have to wait and see to make a final determination. Cheers! --WellThisIsTheReaper Grim 04:26, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose until there are consequences for Google, as per Masem. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 09:48, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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(Closed) Stock market decline

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Procedural Close: The page is currently at AfD which precludes being linked on the main page. If the AfD is closed early as a "keep" this can be re-opened. -Ad Orientem (talk) 14:49, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: 2024 stock market decline (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Nikkei 225 experiences its largest one-day loss amid a global sell-off. (Post)
News source(s): The Washington Post
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  • Oppose single day losses or gains aren't good ITN stories. If there was a week long trend of bad stock news, that might be sonething, but markets are always volitile and thus short term trends aren't really good for ITN. Masem (t) 18:53, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would argue this has been going on for several days, since the Department of Labor's report. The S&P 500 Index, for instance, has been falling. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 19:52, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Certainly made all markets voilitle but in the larger picture, just more wild swings and not massive corrections... Yet. Other pundants are saying this was expected for a long time due to lack of fed interest cut and the perception infinite growth could go on forever, so the market is now just correcting. Either way, we don't have a significant enough long term economic impact appropriate for ITN. Masem (t) 20:13, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support when article is improved. Economic news are underrepresented at ITN and this one is notable - global in nature, very much so in the news and historic as the largest one day loss. 2A02:8071:6362:54A0:549B:15AE:60C8:4E6 (talk) 18:58, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. This currently this doesn't have enough due weight for ITN. This is an ongoing event and may be mooted if the stock market recovers, or the sell-off could continue and become a bigger story to potentially merit ITN. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 18:56, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Hasn't been long enough to tell if this will mean anything yet. The article would need expansion anyway. Estreyeria (talk) 19:31, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment On Black Thursday, the decline was 11%. It closed high on Friday. The succeeding Monday and Tuesday had two more ~11% drops. Following that, much of the world plunged into a depression (I'm aware of the London crash and how reductive it is to claim the stock crash was the primary cause of the Depression; this is merely for comparison's sake). This is only one day, however, followed by an eerily similar good day. If the next two trading days have a comparable decline, I'll support. Sincerely, Dilettante 03:23, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose No evidence that this is more than your run of the mill market correction. We don't blurb that sort of thing even if it ends up foreshadowing a recession. The S&P 500's drop today was not even in the top twenty for one day declines. Japan's market drop is interesting but so far unclear what it's long term ramifications will be. And FWIW as of this comment the Nikkei Index is currently trading up around 10%. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:36, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The article has been nominated for deletion and the nominator's reason was "plain economic news, and even as economic news goes it's not notable". MAL MALDIVE (talk) 11:16, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The article is at Afd and the main impact of the event seems to be (as stated in the lead) the "heightening concerns of a recession" which I do not think is notable enough. Gödel2200 (talk) 12:59, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) Hasina resigns

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Article: Sheikh Hasina (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Bangladeshi prime minister Sheikh Hasina resigns and flees the country following protests. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Bangladeshi Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina resigns and flees the country after protests that followed reform attempts.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Sheikh Hasina resigns as prime minister of Bangladesh and flees to India following protests.
News source(s): India Today
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Major news.User:Rushtheeditor (talk) 09:50, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support because this is major news and alt blurb Sharier4 (talk) 13:31, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support Huge news. --Grnrchst (talk) 14:36, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support Incredibly important post. Greatder (talk) 14:52, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have removed the tag until such time as the drive-by tagger creates a TP section explaining why policy supports the tag they placed after this ITN/C was opened. Per BRD, they'll need to gain consensus to restore the tag.-- SashiRolls 🌿 · 🍥 22:36, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The orange tag has been removed since no TP discussion was created concerning the tag. Perhaps the tagger could spend the time to explain themself on the TP. -- SashiRolls 🌿 · 🍥 22:38, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • I moved the content about the more recent events that were put in the Controversies section up into the political career, as to meet my suggestion that there should be more there to explain why she fled the position (specifically her stance in the earlier protest). — Masem (t) 03:46, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Graham Thorpe

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Article: Graham Thorpe (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Sky News
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

English cricketer. 240F:7A:6253:1:D008:3BBC:2CAE:D4B9 (talk) 07:31, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

August 4

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RD: Duane Thomas

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Article: Duane Thomas (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBS Sports
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Running back for the Dallas Cowboys. 240F:7A:6253:1:3433:C2D3:2DC9:5CFD (talk) 07:08, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Steve Kragthorpe

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Article: Steve Kragthorpe (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBS Sports
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

College football coach for Louisville and Tulsa. 240F:7A:6253:1:3433:C2D3:2DC9:5CFD (talk) 07:08, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Tsung-Dao Lee

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Article: Tsung-Dao Lee (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYTimes
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Article needs work. Staraction (talk | contribs) 16:58, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Shobhana Ranade

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Article: Shobhana Ranade (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): All India Radio
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Indian social worker. Ktin (talk) 23:43, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Novak Djokovic wins gold medal

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WP:SNOW. The Kip (contribs) 18:14, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: Tennis at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Men's singles (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In the 2024 Summer Olympics, Novak Djokovic wins the gold medal for men's tennis singles. (Post)
News source(s): Hindustan Times
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Novak's first gold at the Olympics. 🔥Jalapeño🔥 Stupid stuff I did 15:16, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Covered by ongoing and something similar to this nominated a day ago was not posted Hungry403 (talk) 17:31, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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August 3

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RD: Pasi Ikonen

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Article: Pasi Ikonen (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): YLE
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Finnish orienteer, world champion. Oceanh (talk) 00:09, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Yamini Krishnamurthy

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Article: Yamini Krishnamurthy (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NDTV Indian Express
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Indian classical dancer. Article meets minimum expectations for mainpage. Ktin (talk) 20:14, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) United Kingdom riots

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Article: 2024 United Kingdom riots (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Far-right protesters riot in various parts of the United Kingdom in response to a fatal mass stabbing in Southport. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Far-right, racially motivated protesters riot in various parts of the United Kingdom in response to a fatal mass stabbing in Southport.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Following a mass stabbing in Southport, far-right and anti-immigration riots occur across the United Kingdom.
News source(s): The Guardian, Reuters, The Times]
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Disrupstive event in a major country. -FelineHerder (talk) 19:46, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support altblurb, the event is very important but the racial/religious motivations here can't be ignored. Personisinsterest (talk) 22:41, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support Gaining a lot of traction. Tons of coverage on the riot around the world, worth posting. Hungry403 (talk) 02:23, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support alt2; a significant event, and that blurb appears to best reflect the sources. BilledMammal (talk) 02:27, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No need. The current blurb is concise, and the link between these riots and immigration is extremely tenuous. 'Far right' much better characterises their overall nature. GenevieveDEon (talk) 12:48, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"link between these riots and immigration is extremely tenuous" you have to be kidding me right? That's a main talking point of protesters. "stop the boats" "go home" "England for the English", you watch these protests and you'll hear all these. Kiwiz1338 (talk) 19:23, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: I think we are misinforming our readers by saying these riots have occurred "across the United Kingdom" in the blurb. The riots have been an almost exclusively English phenomenon, with only one relatively minor incident in Belfast. No riots have happened in Wales or Scotland, but that is what we're implying by saying these riots are happening "across the United Kingdom". --Grnrchst (talk) 14:39, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • 85% of the UK population lives in England. If the departments containing 85% of the population of France were rioting, would it be implying that the rioting was also happening in the other 15% if we says "protesters riot in France"? Unknown Temptation (talk) 14:49, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Different situation as the UK is a de facto federal state with four very distinct polities, unlike France which is quite centralised. However I don't think we should specify England as there is unrest occurring in the other nations. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 20:18, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      The UK isn't in any way a federal state. It's a highly centralised state with unequal devolution to Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Abcmaxx (talk) 14:50, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) 100M

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Good faith nomination. However long standing precedent is that we do not post individual events at the Olympics. Consensus to make an exception for this event is not going to develop. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:15, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: Julien Alfred (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Julien Alfred of St. Lucia wins the women's 100m at the Olympics 2024. (Post)
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Had a discussion about this in the talk pages and it being the biggest sports event in 4 years. Men's is tomorrow, but like tennis grand slams, we can just update it then.Sportsnut24 (talk) 19:30, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) RD: Antônio Meneses

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Article: Antônio Meneses (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.thestrad.com/news/brazilian-cellist-antonio-meneses-dies-at-age-66/18411.article , https://concerto.com.br/noticias/musica-classica/morre-aos-66-anos-o-violoncelista-antonio-meneses , https://www.facebook.com/CelloMeneses/posts/pfbid044sM3nxYFCDj2TUcMoqzgY7RZntTqmiGG1pfKvaucJ43ncMDWLtebLy8UCcZwVV1l
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Article updated
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Nominator's comments: last paragraph of "career" (about discography) just needs a couple of little cites, which should take anyone 5-10 minutes with Google's help. Otherwise it should be good to go. Zingarese talk · contribs (please Reply to icon mention me on reply; thanks!) 18:39, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

should be GTG now as far as citing is concerned. Let me know if there are any other problems. Zingarese talk · contribs (please Reply to icon mention me on reply; thanks!) 20:05, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Lido Beach attack

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Article: 2024 Lido Beach attack (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Al-Shabaab killed more than 20 people and injured dozens in an attack (pictured) on a popular spot in Mogadishu, Somalia. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Over 20 people were killed, and dozens were injured in an Al-Shabaab attack at Lido Beach, Mogadishu (pictured).
Alternative blurb II: ​ Al-Shabaab's deadly attack at Mogadishu's Lido Beach (pictured) leaves over 20 dead and dozens injured.
News source(s): Reuters AP
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Nominator's comments: It's effectively capture the tragic event and the broader implications of Lido Beach Attack

An article being featured in the current events portal has no bearing as to whether it should be posted as a blurb. Gödel2200 (talk) 19:31, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ElijahPepe one of the dealiest attack. QalasQalas (talk) 23:28, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

August 2

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August 2, 2024 (2024-08-02) (Friday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Sports

(Attention required) RD: Galboda Gnanissara Thera

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Article: Galboda Gnanissara Thera (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.lankaweb.com/news/items/2024/08/02/ven-galboda-gnanissara-thera-of-gangaramaya-temple-passes-away/ http://island.lk/ven-galaboda-gnanissara-passes-away/ https://www.dailynews.lk/2024/08/06/local/602317/ven-galboda-gnanissara-thera-had-a-vision-for-the-country-merging-modernity-with-culture/
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Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Head priest and the chief incumbent of the Gangaramaya Temple in Colombo, Sri Lanka. 65.94.214.121 (talk) 05:14, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

August 1

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August 1, 2024 (2024-08-01) (Thursday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

  • Intel announces plans to lay off 15% of its workforce in order to reduce its operating costs. (AP)

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Sports

(Posted) RD: Jürgen Ahrend

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Article: Jürgen Ahrend (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): De Volkskrant
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Article updated
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Influential internationally known organ builder, especially known for restoring Baroque organs such as Arp Schnitger's. The article was short in prose and detailed in list. Prose and referencing expanded. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:20, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Craig Shakespeare

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Article: Craig Shakespeare (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC, ESPN, Reuters
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English footballer and coach. 240F:7A:6253:1:D008:3BBC:2CAE:D4B9 (talk) 07:50, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Joyce Brabner

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Article: Joyce Brabner (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Comicsbeat
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Article updated
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American comic book writer. 240F:7A:6253:1:A80D:4F7:9392:624C (talk) 18:50, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Leonard Hayflick

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Article: Leonard Hayflick (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/name/leonard-hayflick-obituary?pid=207364352
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Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American cell biologist.

Personisinsterest (talk) 02:35, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) American–Russian prisoner exchange

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Article: 2024 American–Russian prisoner exchange (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The United States and Russia agree to a prisoner exchange, releasing twenty-six individuals. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The United States and Russia agree to a prisoner exchange of twenty-six individuals at the Ankara Esenboğa Airport (pictured).
Alternative blurb II: ​ The United States and Russia agree to a prisoner exchange, releasing twenty-six individuals.
Alternative blurb III: ​ The United States and allies agree to a a prisoner exchange with Russia, releasing twenty-six individuals.
News source(s): Reuters
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Specifically the altblurb, and would support a free image of the prisoners being released if possible Personisinsterest (talk) 15:06, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Let the record reflect that I comment on ITN most often to note U.S.-centric bias. I incorrectly assumed that the deal was between the U.S. and Russia at first, as well. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 01:27, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Masem Hungry403 (talk) 21:01, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on notability, oppose on quality. As others have mentioned, the details on the prisoner exchange itself are lacking in prose. The article should be expanded upon before the blurb is posted. ArkHyena (talk) 21:55, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on notability In fact, there is precedent to post these types of things; for instance, Brittney Griner's release was posted. And with this event having many more prisoners being exchanged than that one, this passes the bar of significance in my mind. Gödel2200 (talk) 00:08, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on notability, oppose all current blurb options. A better blurb may be something along the lines of Russia released western journalists/political prisoners in exchange for releasing criminals held in western countries. Or similar. My wording is crap. There isn't a clear good short wording for this. But I agree with others that the blurb should not place undue emphasis on the US, given that from my reading 7 western countries were involved in the discussions for this exchange. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | me | talk to me! 04:03, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Most biased ITN i have ever seen AlexBobCharles (talk) 07:52, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support This is huge, and many prominent politicians and journalists are involved. Trepang2 (talk) 04:43, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Major prisoner exchange between major countries in the major power blocks in the Second Cold War, historical and highly notable. --Gerrit CUTEDH 06:22, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. There weren't 26 people released, only 24, other two on the plane being kids whose parents were detained in Slovenia. Regarding the sides of exchange, altblurb3 is the correct one, because seven countries participated. Maybe it makes sense to mention Germany explicitly, because the most important contribution was by Germany and it has received all but three people of those who were sent to the West. BilboBeggins (talk) 12:19, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The photo should not be posted as it would be pro-US bias . Altblurb 3 is the best one
    I know , i meant for it be posted with no photo AlexBobCharles (talk) 15:39, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb. The biggest prisoner exchange between West abd East since World War 2 [6]. In the news and analysed all over the world, the biggest news currently. The event is by no means trivial, as seven countries participated in swap, with Turkey serving as neutral party, and there were also difficulties in legal justification and abiding by law. This led to debate in Germany and may influence future of the governing coalition (because its members had varying opinions on thr issue). The situation is very complex and for sure there will be consequences, changes for bilateral relations between countries participating in the exchange, and more. BilboBeggins (talk) 13:47, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The article quality has improved considerably and the title has been changed in view of the discussion. I think the consensus has shifted to support? Let me see some more feedback, then ready to post. --Tone 15:09, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Probably the last big international event of the year unless war breaks out between Iran and Israel. Count Iblis (talk) 15:55, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    -until war breaks out between Iran and Israel Personisinsterest (talk) 16:19, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, in the news internationally and the article is in good shape. -- Tavix (talk) 16:25, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support highly notable and in relatively good quality, Editor 5426387 (talk) 16:28, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posting. Feel free to add the picture. --Tone 17:42, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • I don't feel the quality concerns raised early have been sufficiently addressed. Take out the background and list of people, and you have almost nothing of substance here and less than what we would normally expect. All the claims how this is that significant should be then easy to source to explain that by those making those claims, not just handwaving that factor. I am not going to ask for it to be pulled, but we have to make sure that what we are posting represent some of WP's best work since we're highlighting it on the main page. --Masem (t) 17:46, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      I agree. The posted blurb still emphasises the United States and treats the other countries involved as insignificant allies, i.e. puppets or stooges comparable with Belarus. This is not accurate or complete, as I understand it. The key prisoner was not Gershkovich, who is currently the primary focus of the article, but Krasikov who was the guy that Russia really wanted as he's a personal acquaintance or colleague of Putin. Krasikov was held by Germany and so their agreement was vital in getting the deal done. The Germans refused previously, holding out for a swap with Navalny and so it was his death that opened things up. The article doesn't explain this well and just seems to be cheer-leading for the US to make Biden and Harris look good. It comes across as blatant US propaganda. Andrew🐉(talk) 18:12, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      If not for Germany, the swap wouldn't have happened. So I agree with you. As I mentioned before, I also have issue with 26 released. If by ghat we mean that they were on planes, then yes. But many may understand this as if all 26 were released from prison, which is not the case. BilboBeggins (talk) 18:27, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      The blurb is now in play at WP:ERRORS so we have a multilateral situation. I just looked at the lead of the article and the only named people are Americans. The lead picture is American showing Americans and an American flag. There's then a section all about a particular American. The negotiations section then starts with a link to VP Harris. It's like the Simpsons when Homer chants USA! USA! But see WP:NPOV... Andrew🐉(talk) 18:57, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Gershkovich and Whelan were the only people initially confirmed. The image is the only public domain image pertaining to this. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 19:04, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Pull The article is nonsensically lop-sided. There's an entire massive paragraph about Gershkovich (why?), a paragraph about negotiations which should be titled "American negotiations", and the reactions section ... well, you get the picture. Practically nothing about Germany without who this wouldn't have happened at all. Black Kite (talk) 19:06, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The info from article in other languages may be added. BilboBeggins (talk) 09:51, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Pull The article is not ready for the main page, containing a fully unsourced background section. Gödel2200 (talk) 22:26, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I've dealt with the copyvio problems but this has just left a lot of the article unsourced. Black Kite (talk) 10:06, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Post-posting support The article was put together pretty quickly given how fast the news developed. It can be continually improved. This is the largest prisoner exchange since the Cold War, possibly ever. Posting it was the right call. Pats2017 (talk) 00:31, 4 August 2024 (UTC)Pats2017 (talk)[reply]
    • There is no timeliness factor for ITN posting. Quality must be established before it is posted, and even at the current state, the substance of the article (the negotations of the trade) are barely discussed. --Masem (t) 00:35, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      <<There is no timeiness factor for ITN posting>>
      Not my point. The point is that it's a huge story that people going to Wikipedia will look for. And as for quality, we of course want a high-quality article. As I said, it can always be revised and improved. But even if it can use improvement the magnitude of the story merits consideration for WP:IAR. The item has been posted and should remain so.Pats2017 (talk) 00:48, 4 August 2024 (UTC)Pats2017[reply]
      Quality is a non-negotiable requirement for any article linked as a featured one from the Main Page, since those are supposed to represent some of WP's best work. We don't IAR quality for timeliness. And if readers aren't seeing a news story they thing might be in the ITN box, its why we also include the Current Events portal to help further while the article may be improved. --Masem (t) 01:10, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      We've routinely put stories up before that weren't the best quality--we do it all the time for sporting events, award ceremonies, elections.
      You may disagree with me about what qualifies our "best work," but In The News always represents our best work that we could post in a timely manner, give that we have at most seven days before items become stale. There are always comments in the Talk Page about how an "article is good enough" to post (You can scroll down the current ITN Talk Page for at least three instances.)
      I can understand the case for Pulling an item that clearly doesn't meet ITN criteria on signficance (for example, the Beatles "new hit song" item that got posted and then--correctly imho--pulled a while back). But this is clearly a ITN-worthy item that affects at least seven nations and has a profound impact. The toothpaste is out of the tube. Pulling the item back at this point is silly. Pats2017 (talk) 01:38, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      We do not post things like awards, sports results, or elections without the article being at least a reasonably complete state within the hours or days after that has completed. For new news events, there is a reasonable expectation of what could be included. For this prisoner trade, there are several articles (now? maybe not 24-48 hrs ago) that have significant deals - far more than what our current article's two paragraphs fail to properly summarize. That's the type of expection we want to those non-routine events. Same applies to disaster articles; we don't post until we know we have a sufficient amount of detail about the event itself. We're not expecting completeness, and things can change and be added after posting, but the initial post needs to be of a certain level that shows the article is trending towards meeting all core content policies and thus appropriate for an encyclopedia, not just regurgitating the news. For example, there's still what seems to be underselling of the Germany role in these negotiations, which makes this still an NPOV issue. --Masem (t) 02:12, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Fair point re:Germony, but it doesn't nullify my point that every article currently on the ITN board got the "article is good enough" seal of consensus on the Talk Page prior to posting. The prisoner swap article also needs improvement and will continue to be revised.
      Don't make perfect the enemy of good. There's no need to pull the article. Just keep working roward making it better. Pats2017 (talk) 02:28, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Assassination of Mohammed Deif

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Article: Mohammed Deif (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Israel confirms that it assassinated Mohammed Deif, the military commander of Hamas, last month. (Post)
News source(s): Washington Post, Al Jazeera
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Nominator's comments: Another significant assassination in the context of the war. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 11:35, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wait, until more evidence comes out let’s hold off on posting. Dudes article has a few CN tags. Ion.want.uu (talk) 12:31, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I mean, they said that on the first day. Seeing as there's no more evidence and that this is denied by Hamas, I don't think we can post this Personisinsterest (talk) 12:38, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hamas has not confirmed or denied the death. We can wait until then to decide whether to post. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 13:11, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Halla Tómasdóttir becomes president

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Article: Halla Tómasdóttir (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Halla Tómasdóttir is to be sworn in as the president of Iceland after elections in June. (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
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 Abcmaxx (talk) 10:43, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Several things to comment. First, Iceland is a parliamentary republic and its head of state has no executive powers. Consequently, it is not ITNR. Secondly, I would wait for the official inauguration. And, thirdly, the presidential election was two months ago, so the main article cannot be the one about the election because it is stale and should be the one about Tómasdóttir. _-_Alsor (talk) 10:49, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For some reason I got the months wrong. Amended now. Abcmaxx (talk) 10:53, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
thanks! The problem now is that it's a short biography. The articles in Icelandic and Italian have more content with sources. The articles may help to expand on this. _-_Alsor (talk) 11:03, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose we didn't include the Icelandic election, therefore we shouldn't include the swearing in. Scu ba (talk) 11:22, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Actually if we missed the Icelandic elections this is a good opportunity to remedy this and post. Abcmaxx (talk) 12:43, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Correct. _-_Alsor (talk) 12:56, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No. We didn’t miss the Icelandic election. It was put up as a cannidate. The result of the discussion was to not post it since 1) it’s Iceland and 2) the office of president is ceremonial and 3) we haven’t posted an Icelandic presidential election before. Scu ba (talk) 13:26, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I wasn't aware of the previous discussion but none of those seem like a good reason on their own to oppose: 1. Iceland is a fully sovereign state, and isn't a micronation by any means; its relatively small population should not really be a discriminating factor. 2. It's ceremonial in many states, and the president is still a representative of the nation with political influence 3. That does not mean it cannot ever be posted. Abcmaxx (talk) 15:38, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Don't get me wrong, I agree, Iceland's results should've been included in the news, but it wasn't. We don't include swearing ins so we shouldn't break precedent here. Scu ba (talk) 16:40, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support to compensate for missing the Icelandic election, as per Abcmaxx. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 15:14, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, wait for inauguration Personisinsterest (talk) 19:38, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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