Talk:Zoosadism

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"Undue weight"

@Rosguill: Which topics are given undue weight in this article? Jarble (talk) 19:17, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The 2018 scandal and Other examples sections both arbitrarily highlight specific examples without reference to literature that actually examines zoosadism qua zoosadism. The due-ness of their inclusion is not established unless they receive this level of emphasis in texts dedicated to zoosadism as a topic in itself. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 20:05, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Definition of Zoosadism changed to match reference

I have changed the definition of Zoosadism from harm to torturing (previously was pain). This change matches the language used in reference #1. Note that the equivalent human term, Sexual_sadism_disorder, uses "involuntary extreme pain, suffering or humiliation".

Some speculation: Since this is a paraphilia, only the appearance of the harmful effect is considered, not the actual impact on the victim. For this reason, humiliation is likely out, as it is, generally speaking, a human understood term. As for extreme pain, I am unsure why this distinction is made. As for suffering, this would imply that Sexual sadism disorder applies to acts that the sadist did not initiate, which tracks as Zoosadism is an action instead of a state of mind. Subanark (talk) 18:10, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The user who objected to the change from pain to harm has been blocked due to WP:SOCK. Regardless, their point is valid and I will leave the change to from pain/harm to torture. Subanark (talk) 13:34, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]