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    Definition of edit warring
    Edit warring is a behavior, typically exemplified by the use of repeated edits to "win" a content dispute. It is different from a bold, revert, discuss (BRD) cycle. Reverting vandalism and banned users is not edit warring; at the same time, content disputes, even egregious point of view edits and other good-faith changes do not constitute vandalism. Administrators often must make a judgment call to identify edit warring when cooling disputes. Administrators currently use several measures to determine if a user is edit warring.
    Definition of the three-revert rule (3RR)
    An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Violations of this rule normally attract blocks of at least 24 hours. Any appearance of gaming the system by reverting a fourth time just outside the 24-hour slot is likely to be treated as a 3RR violation. See here for exemptions.

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    Page: Super League Greece (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    Users being reported:

    Diffs of Montigliani's reverts:

    1. 19:35, 13 August 2024 (UTC) "Canvassing is not allowed though. Anyway, I'm glad you recognize that you're bringing something back that isn't yours."
    2. 19:06, 13 August 2024 (UTC) "Because you are re-editing a blocked user. That's what it's called Canvassing."
    3. 18:27, 13 August 2024 (UTC) ""

    Diffs of D.S. Lioness's reverts:

    1. 19:49, 13 August 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1240143181 by Montigliani (talk) you don't even know what canvassing is..."
    2. 19:28, 13 August 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1240138672 by Montigliani (talk) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Banning_policy#Edits_by_and_on_behalf_of_banned_and_blocked_editors It is permittable"
    3. 18:57, 13 August 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1240133558 by Montigliani (talk) why?"
    4. 18:11, 13 August 2024 (UTC) "/* History */ restoring content with some changes"

    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    • See the block logs of both users and the following warning:
    1. 18:14, 4 August 2024 (UTC) on User talk:Montigliani "/* An unproductive battleground */ new section"
    2. 18:14, 4 August 2024 (UTC) on User talk:D.S. Lioness "/* An unproductive battleground */ new section"

    Comments:

    I'm tired of this. I'd now indefinitely block both accounts for persistently misusing Wikipedia as a battleground, but that might be because of their constant attacks against each other including on my talk page,* so I'd prefer to let someone else decide. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:13, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    *Search User_talk:ToBeFree/A/6 for their usernames for an overview if desired ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:28, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Actually, my number 4 is not a revert. I just adding content who immediately removed
    See also here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#I_am_prevented_from_adding_content D.S. Lioness (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 20:17, 13 August 2024‎ (UTC)[reply]
    It is a revert of Special:Diff/1215075851. However, if that's your point, the edit war has a longer history than 24 hours and my concern is unrelated to the three-revert rule. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:26, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I've had a look again and D.S. Lioness's accusations seem to have been exclusively directed against Michalis1994 who did turn out to be a sockpuppet. I'd say the persistent battleground behavior is from Montigliani, not D.S. Lioness, despite their edit warring, current partial block and previous edit warring block. The warning linked in the report is primarily about Montigliani's behavior, and the persistent accusations on my talk page are not "against each other" but rather one-sidedly from Montigliani against the rest. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:52, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I am surprised by this comment that I did not see yesterday. If I understand correctly, you are accusing me of attacking everyone else! Let it be. Now I am forced to defend myself. The user I am now in conflict with had called me first when he had a dispute with a known puppet. Then they turned out to be partners. It's tiring to give links all the time to prove myself right. They even tried to delete my clipboard. I won't say any more. I am only sorry for this comment from ToBeFree. Montigliani (talk) 07:45, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The discussion has not ended here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Evangelos_Marinakis#Request_for_comment and the other user adds to the input of the entry, what he himself disputed!
    Here https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Super_League_Greece&diff=1240144883&oldid=1240143181 brings back a puppet contribution apparently for revenge.
    Here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Just_Step_Sideways#Article_in_sandbox_page trying to delete my clipboard
    Meanwhile the puppet silences him from behind https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Evangelos_Marinakis&diff=prev&oldid=1239915156
    These few to give you an idea. Montigliani (talk) 08:14, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    And here to see who she really is
    https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:%CE%9C%CE%B1%CF%81%CE%AF%CE%BD%CE%B1_%CE%B7_%CE%86%CF%83%CF%87%CE%B7%CE%BC%CE%B7
    In translation:
    i'm stuck in the b.p. from the wretched Glucken. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/NikolaosFanaris I'm afraid to talk here now because if he discovers me he'll make me a bully and maybe cause me trouble and I don't want to. let's wait for the user check to finish and we'll see.. D.S. Lioness (talk) 01:52, 8 July 2024 (UTC) Montigliani (talk) 15:52, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    one more reversal https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Super_League_Greece&diff=prev&oldid=1240242675 by Montigliani D.S. Lioness (talk) 17:17, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Edit warring while the report about it is still open, I see. And new attacks on my talk page. Montigliani's approach to Wikipedia conflicts is perhaps best described by their own words:
    If you don't block her, you'll be forced to block me. I appreciate you immensely, but I won't back down. They want to pass the slanders about Marinakis to the Super Liq article. Over my dead body.[1]
    ~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:17, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I honestly don't understand why you are so hostile towards me. I am not making any personal attacks on anyone. I wrote a proverb, which means that if someone does something once, he will do it again. Ok. If you want me to be punished, do it. You don't have to hurt me. I don't forget how much you helped me. Montigliani (talk) 07:45, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

     Comment: I would ask the administrators before making their final decision to see how the user User:D.S. Lioness he follows and restores his puppets' edits to the letter Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/NikolaosFanaris/Archive, where they all deal with the articles Evangelos Marinakis and Super League Greece.

    What is your point? You are just slinging mud to cause blur. You are an SPA and the only care of you is to whitewashing Marinakis. D.S. Lioness (talk) 16:49, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Strange. An ip puppet tells me exactly the same thing here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Evangelos_Marinakis#Proposal :This is either a joke or, more concerning, evidence that this person is somehow connected to the subject. The version provided below is a blatant attempt to whitewash Vangelis Marinakis. It's alarming that no appropriate action has been taken despite the numerous threats and insults directed at other users. 92.25.44.181 (talk) 11:09, 12 August 2024 (UTC) Montigliani (talk) 17:51, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    a quick look at your contributions can verify what I said - anyone with eyes can see - even a blocked user. D.S. Lioness (talk) 17:58, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You're right, you're right. Montigliani (talk) 18:05, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    By the way, why you don't fill an SPI request? maybe because of this diff D.S. Lioness (talk) 18:08, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Τhe user seems to be trying to establish a relationship with me and the blocked user to mislead the admins to get me sanctioned. D.S. Lioness (talk)

    You are always behind the footsteps of the puppets. Maybe of course it's a coincidence. Repeated coincidence. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Greece/Article_alerts&diff=prev&oldid=1240884973 --Montigliani (talk) 10:06, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    User:Singbad82 reported by User:Jursha (Result: Stale)

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    Page: The Last of Us Part II Remastered (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: Singbad82 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to: [2]

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. [3]
    2. [4]
    3. [5]
    4. [6]

    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [7]

    Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [8]

    Comments:
    Apologies if I've messed up this report. I'm not directly involved in this dispute, though I did throw my two cents in on the Talk page. I have a feeling that Singbad82 is an alt account of Big Goose23 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). Jursha (talk) 23:15, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    User:Alhitmi123 reported by User:HistoryofIran (Result: )

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    Page: Qarmatians (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: Alhitmi123 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. [9]
    2. [10]
    3. [11]
    4. [12]



    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [13]

    Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [14]

    Comments:

    WP:NOTHERE user, more info at the WP:ANI report [15], during which they violated WP:3RR. --HistoryofIran (talk) 12:42, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Completely forgot, they have done the same at Abu Tahir al-Jannabi [16] [17] [18] [19]. HistoryofIran (talk) 12:51, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    User:Gurus shine reported by User:Jonathan Deamer (Result: Blocked indefinitely)

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    Page: Muktananda (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    User being reported: Gurus shine (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. 17:59, 17 August 2024 (UTC) "This is not true . He is the pure soul . Muktananda baba is the greatest guru . He never did all such things . I was with him for more than 15 years. I know him very well . He is such a kind hearted person. He came just to enlighten our souls. Don't be against him just believe he is the best one . Trust me he is the pure soul."
    2. 17:37, 17 August 2024 (UTC) "Don't do this type of things baba muktananda is purely pure and great guru ."
    3. 17:23, 17 August 2024 (UTC) "There is nothing to doubt baba muktananda is a great guru"

    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    1. 17:30, 17 August 2024 (UTC) "Caution: Removal of content blanking (RW 16.1)"
    2. 17:40, 17 August 2024 (UTC) "Only warning: Removal of content, blanking on Muktananda."
    3. 17:54, 17 August 2024 (UTC) "Welcome to Wikipedia!"

    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

    1. 17:39, 17 August 2024 (UTC) on Muktananda "Can you please give a reason based in Wikipedia policy for the removal of this cited information?"

    Comments:

    Repeated removal of content and sources. Jonathan Deamer (talk) 18:01, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Page: Thirty Seconds to Mars (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: 2605:59c8:912:e810:0:0:0:0/64 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to: [23]

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. [24]
    2. [25]
    3. [26]
    4. [27]



    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [link]

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [diff]

    Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [diff]

    Comments:
    Also edit warring and adding unsourced content on Kate & Mim-Mim, as well as posting fake block messages [28]. User:Stephen McKeever might also be related since they also did the same thing [29] 2A0E:1D47:9085:D200:1C4B:C74A:20B1:D8C1 (talk) 19:52, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    And now this. 2A0E:1D47:9085:D200:519A:9A9C:BC66:215A (talk) 21:50, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Page: Category:Newspaper people by newspaper in New York City (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    User being reported: Lost in Quebec (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. 16:05, 17 August 2024 (UTC) "See Omnis Scientia talk page and NP criteria. Since when does working in a city make you from there? Do we classify NY Rangers hockey players category People from NYC?"
    2. 13:46, 17 August 2024 (UTC) "Working somewhere doesn't automatically make the person from there."
    3. 13:36, 17 August 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1237720256 by Smasongarrison (talk)"

    Additional diffs for other edit warring on Category:Blanche Ely High School alumni

    1. [30]
    2. [31]
    3. [32] including reverting my request to wait until the disussion was over.Mason (talk) 20:39, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    1. 01:12, 16 August 2024 (UTC) "Warning: Edit warring on Category:Blanche Ely High School alumni."

    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

    1. 15:42, 17 August 2024 (UTC) "/* Parent categories of journalism */ new section"
    2. 23:43, 16 August 2024 (UTC) on User talk:Smasongarrison "/* New message from Lost in Quebec */ closed"

    Comments:

    I've tried to engage them but it's clear that they are not willing to actually have a civil discussion with me Mason (talk) 20:15, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    User:Korrektor1917 reported by User:Grayfell (Result: Blocked two weeks)

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    Page: Aleksandr Dugin (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    User being reported: Korrektor1917 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. 06:05, 18 August 2024 (UTC) "Undid more unjustified revisions that are, in fact, listed on the Talk Page. I would advise you check the top of it, where it addresses the "Fascism" charge. Checking is less work than blindly hitting "undo" to revert to an inferior version of this article, which is confusing on multiple occasions and suffers from editorial bias."
    2. 05:55, 18 August 2024 (UTC) "Undid unjustified changes that continue to confuse the Dugin article. The article down correctly (1) states Dugin is a Eurasianist, (2) resolves a contradiction in the previous entry that Dugin is a "fascist" while later describing how Dugin condemns fascism as liberal. I invite other editors to actually prove why these edits are unsubstantial rather than mass-reverse to a biased and unsupported series of claims."
    3. 05:45, 18 August 2024 (UTC) "Undid ideologically-motivated revisions by others. I understand that Langley is here to make the page into an ideological hit-piece, but it is in fact not useful or accurate to simply refer to Dugin as a "far-right philosopher" when Eurasianist is accurate for both how Dugin describes himself and how others describe him. Furthermore, to simply state that "Dugin has been characterized as a fascist" without even mentioning Dugin's statements condemning fascism is ridiculous, and makes you a liar."
    4. 05:10, 18 August 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1240907507 by Knitsey (talk). Knitsey should go through and justify why Dugin should not be characterized as a Eurasianist."
    5. 04:59, 18 August 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1240906333 by Knitsey (talk). "Far-right" is not descriptive of Dugin's politics, which are explicitly Eurasianist. This should principally be used to define Dugin's politics, and citations to Dugin's work should be listed to justify "far-right" designations."
    6. 08:04, 18 August 2024 (UTC) "Under Washington Post Opinion Pieces by feminist authors as the primary source to characterize Dugin's view. Added scholarship citing Dugin's criticism of fascism and Nazism."

    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    1. 05:31, 18 August 2024 (UTC) "Warning: Edit warring on Aleksandr Dugin."
    2. 06:03, 18 August 2024 (UTC) "Warning: Three-revert rule on Aleksandr Dugin."

    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

    1. 06:06, 18 August 2024 (UTC) "/* Whitewashing to remove "far-right" */ new section"

    Comments:

    Note that Korrektor1917 was blocked for edit warring a few weeks ago at Communist Party USA. Grayfell (talk) 06:11, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    No, the edits were not for the "Communist Party USA." The edits were for the now-defunct "American Communist Party," which has since been merged into "Communist Party USA" article.
    The "edit war" I was engaged in was deleting scatological and pornographic references made to ACP's page by users engaging in pervasive graffiti. This, in addition to constantly attempts to correct this graffiti, is what prompted the removal of the page. Korrektor1917 (talk) 06:33, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Whatever. The only reason I mentioned the American Communist Party block was to indicate that this user should know better than to edit war. Grayfell (talk) 07:17, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    And Grayfell should know better what a reliable source is. Korrektor1917 (talk) 07:43, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Note that Grayfell has repeatedly deleted substantial edits to the page for "Aleksandr Dugin" on the basis of not sourcing reliably. However, the sources were scholarly and replaced Washington Post Opinion Pieces with no source material, which this editor believes were selected for political motivations. When asked to justify the deletions, which were indiscriminate, Grayfell insisted on any citation to the contrary, including those published to reputable journals, were "cherrypicked." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Korrektor1917 (talkcontribs) 07:55, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Note that Grayfell has been accused multiple times of engaging in "Edit Wars" on his page, including multiple users requesting he stop overusing the "edit-war accusation." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Korrektor1917 (talkcontribs) 07:59, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I've added another diff. Korrektor1917 is continuing to edit war. In addition to myself, two other editors have reverted these edits. Grayfell (talk) 08:15, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Grayfell and other editors are engaging in an edit-war and removing citations to scholarly sources without any explanation. Once again, fiction authors who published WaPo opinion pieces are not valid sources for describing a philosopher's views. Korrektor1917 (talk) 08:18, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]