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National origin

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Since this originated in the Soviet Union, should we strike Russia from it? No question that Russia is the successor the the USSR, but it does't seem to be the origin.Garuda28 (talk) 19:29, 12 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Don't take origin so literally. In this sense, it means the nations it comes from or are responsible for it, not the first-ever nation. - BilCat (talk) 19:38, 12 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Gotcha, wasn't sure if there was a precedence for this on other aircraft articles, since the Soviet Union/Russia is our only case of this happening in recent history. Thanks!Garuda28 (talk) 19:46, 12 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Well, that's the original intent of the parameter anyway, and how I continue to interpret it. Russia is doing major upgrades of their T-160s, and might resume production if needed, so it's clearly their aircraft too. And there's certainly a strong argument that Russia is the successor to the Soviet Union, as the former made up the bulk of the latter's land area and population. - BilCat (talk) 21:26, 12 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Antonov was an Ukrainian, Tupolev Russian. The continunity exists. 62.78.205.143 (talk) 16:45, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tu-170?

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It links here from a list of Tu planes, but there's no mention of it. I demand this be done. GMRE (talk) 20:33, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Size/ Role / Comparison

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I quote: "While similar in appearance to the American B-1 Lancer, the Tu-160 is a different class of combat aircraft; its primary role being a standoff missile platform (strategic missile carrier).[32] The Tu-160 is also larger and faster than the B-1B and has a slightly greater combat range, though the B-1B has a larger combined payload with external payload." When comparing Size -it is closer to the US North American Aviation XB-70 Valkyrie. Althought the XB-70 is some decades earlier and only 2 test aircraft were built. Others thoughts on changing the comparision to the XB-70? Wfoj3 (talk) 13:39, 27 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yep. Also the "in response to" B-1 is completely false and comes from military fan fiction literature.
It could be compared to (but was not made in-response-to) the _original_ RFP for the B1 which called for a strategic bomber. Once the B-1"A" project got canned, the Tu-160 was left in a class of its own. No other mid-supersonic trans-continental "bomber" was ever put into service.
This is similar in how the Mig-31 (and Mig-25) have no analogues. Or how the F-117 or the F-14 had no analogues either. Each of these came to be solving a specific need for a specific country. A need that just did not exist for anyone else. Or the Draken for the Swedes, etc. 83.240.62.87 (talk) 21:57, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Register and port

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There is a common knowledge, that the Russian federation had 16 Tupolev Tu-160's, Tu-160M1's and Tu-160M2's. How ever since the Ukrainians strome to the Engels AFB, 30 Tupolevs can be seen in the Google Earth satellite photograph in Vernnyi AFB in the Murmans oblast. It would be interesting to know, what are the remaising 13 and what types they represent. 2001:14BA:6408:AB00:CD45:302A:4BDB:A8F5 (talk) 15:16, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

register port number name serial modernisation
RF-94100 10 Nikolai Kuznetsov Николай Кузнецов 09.08.2008 [1] [2] 6-01 10.08.2022 [3] Ukrainian from Priluk to Engels [4]
RF-94101 03 Pavel Taran Павел Таран [5] 7-03 Tu-160M? 2017-2019
RF-94102 02 Vasilij Reshetnikov Василий Решетников [6] 7-02 [7] 1992 [8]
RF-94103 14 22 Igor Sikorsky Игорь Сикорский [9] 2012 [10] 11.2021 [11]
RF-94104 05 Alexander Gonovalov Александр Голованов 1999Ilya Murometsh 1995 [12] 7-05
RF-94105 06 Ilya Murometsh Илья Муромец [13] [14] 1995 8-01
RF-94106 07 Alexander Molotchy Александр Молодчий [15] 2000 [16] 8-02
RF-94107 16 Alexey Plohov Алексей Плохов [17] 2001 [18] subject to become modernised
RF-94108 15 Vladimir Sudets Владимир Судец [19] 2004 [20] 5-05
RF-94109 12 Aleksandr Novikov Александр Новиков [21] 2000 [22] 6-03 01.2012
RF-94110 17 Valery Chkalov Валерий Чкалов [23] 2004 [24] 5-04 29.06.1990 Ukrainian from Priluk to Engels
RF-94111 18 Andrei Tupolev Андрей Туполев [25] 6-05 1991
RF-94112 04 Ivan Jarygin Иван Ярыгин [26] 1997 [27] 7-04 Tu-160M? 2017-2019
RF-94113 19 87 Valentin Bliznjuk Валентин Близнюк [28] 2006 [29] 2-02 Tu-160M1 2006
RF-94114 11 Vasilij Senko Василий Сенько [30] 2002 [31] 6-02 30.12.1990 Tu-160M? 2026 Ukrainian from Priluk to Engels
RF-94115 08 Vitalij Kopylov Виталий Копылов [32] 2008 [33] 8-03
RF-94_N/A 09 Boris Bevemei Борис Веремей [34] 2005 [35] 4-01 Tu-160M 2022
RF-94_N/A Pyotor Deinekin Пётр Дейнекин [36] 8-04 Tu-160M 16.11.2017