Talk:Béla Bartók

Death?

What did he die from? 220.240.77.202 (talk) 10:28, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

crater

A large and important crater on Mercury is named after him. It is the largest of "recent" (Kuiperian) craters on Mercury. Jstuby (talk) 03:05, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

Question on a Source.

Could this be reliable and credible enough to be used on the un-cited material in the section on his childhood? ToastEatinBread (talk) 20:13, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

Plagiarism

Significant chunks of this article are copied directly from this source without proper attribution. As an example, the following two paragraphs are nearly verbatim:

In 1908, he and Kodály traveled into the countryside to collect and research old Magyar folk melodies. Their growing interest in folk music coincided with a contemporary social interest in traditional national culture. Magyar folk music had previously been categorised as Gypsy music. The classic example is Franz Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsodies for piano, which he based on popular art songs performed by Romani bands of the time. In contrast, Bartók and Kodály discovered that the old Magyar folk melodies were based on pentatonic scales, similar to those in Asian folk traditions, such as those of Central Asia, Anatolia and Siberia.[citation needed] Bartók and Kodály set about incorporating elements of such Magyar peasant music into their compositions. They both frequently quoted folk song melodies verbatim and wrote pieces derived entirely from authentic songs. An example is his two volumes entitled For Children for solo piano, containing 80 folk tunes to which he wrote accompaniment. Bartók's style in his art music compositions was a synthesis of folk music, classicism, and modernism. His melodic and harmonic sense was influenced by the folk music of Hungary, Romania, and other nations. He was especially fond of the asymmetrical dance rhythms and pungent harmonies found in Bulgarian music. Most of his early compositions offer a blend of nationalist and late Romanticism elements.

Ben373119 (talk) 18:08, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

References

Opus numbering his own works?

Need a reference to this. Not seeing in manuscripts or in musicology works. If no citation pops up, I will delete the line. Currently tagged as citation needed. Screen317 (talk) 07:10, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

https://www.henle.de/download/aktuelles/080.pdf

This source by Vera Lampert should at least be included in sources. 2600:4040:52C1:6F00:841:1A0E:4AF9:50FF (talk) 20:48, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Infobox

I was going to add an infobox per Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle but saw the hidden message about consulting first. Would it be OK? — Iadmc♫^talk  11:17, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Béla Viktor János Bartók
Béla Bartók in 1927
Born	25 March 1881 Nagyszentmiklós in the Kingdom of Hungary
Died	26 September 1945 New York City
Occupation(s)	composer, pianist and ethnomusicologist
Works	List of compositions

— Iadmc♫^talk  11:27, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Funeral

The article states that only ten people attended Bartók's funeral. Yet he was obviously well known (at least in certain classical music circles), the article names famous musicians who commissioned works by him or performed with him, and it says he had numerous supporters. I might guess that perhaps the extensive support he received was primarily to enable him to continue working, and that in person he might have been a difficult man, highly respected for his skill and talent but with other characteristics that were generally disliked; of course that is not the only possible reason, and there might be several reasons.

It just seems an odd surprise when the article says so few people attended his funeral, because there doesn't seem to be a lot of other information here that would make it predictable. But maybe the information is in here and I'm just not reading it right. TooManyFingers (talk) 19:11, 14 October 2024 (UTC)