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Released In America

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The band's record was available in America when it was released, but only in hard to find places, and in places like Manhattan. I worry that Spex fans might despair of anyone in US ever having known the material the way that particular sentence is presented. I listened to it quite a bit at school in the early 80s. It is actually was quite popular in New England, New York and Los Angeles at the time as a non-radio play new-wave band. To give a reference point, Nervus Rex Joy Division and Pigbag were about equally as popular in America at the time. It was the very early days of new wave. Any exposure all of the less well known bands here would owe a lot to Elvis Costello who was very well promoted from the time of his first tour in 1977. McDogm--McDogm 08:07, 2 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Released in France

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The album was released in France and had some press articles , the group was famous for the people involved in the punk deflagration.The punk was not very good mediatised in the Rock Press but it was and the scene(from UK and France after some weeks )was existing there too with Fanzines and some specialised indie record shops were accompanying the feeling of ebulition of these times..

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Photo request

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If any editors are going to the show in Camden in September could you take a freely licenced photo of the band for the article? It would be a great help since they don't play often and most of the press kit photos available online are trash or unsourced. Thanks a bunch. Zytsef (talk) 18:17, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm afraid that the MySpace link reverters are playing fast and loose with the guidelines. Quoting from WP:EL: "Except for a link to a page that is the subject of the article or an official page of the article subject... one should avoid" and it goes on to list MySpace. Since the link that has been removed does, in fact, point to an official myspace page specificly for X-Ray Spex it meets the criteria for inclusion. This is probably the only case where a link to myspace is acceptable. Thanks. Zytsef (talk) 23:36, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. There has never been a restriction on linking to an artist's *official* MySpace page, as far as I am aware. In fact, these are useful links. --Kurt Shaped Box (talk) 23:42, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Top of the Pops

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Until the recent editing work, this article was only rated as a stub. It is now much improved and awaiting re-assessment. However, there are still improvement to be made. Further contributions welcomed!

Can I ask if anyone can find a credible cite relating to the band's 'Top of the Pops' appearances? I KNOW they performed in the TOTP studio but I can't remember what single it was or the approx. date. More importantly, I can't find a proper citation. Yozzer66 (talk) 19:13, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cites

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At the moment, cites 7 to 11 are evidence of the classic status of 'Germ Free Adolecence'. The critic's description of individual tracks and their meaning are of secondary importance. Yozzer66 (talk) 13:41, 24 November 2008 (UTC).[reply]

The critic in cite 11 you are dismissing as of secondary importance is Poly Styrene. The cite you keep putting back "With anti-fashion icon Poly Styrene as frontwoman, and a 15-year-old Lora Logic on sax, X-Ray Spex offered neon DIY rock'n'roll that proved punk wasn't all self-harm and safety pins. The shrieking Identity and I Am A Poseur were unrivalled anti-consumerism anthems." is partially incorrect. Identity is not a anti consumerist anthem. The person that disagrees with your cite on what Identity means is the bands lead singer.
According to the Independent
Songs such as "The Day the World Turned Day-Glo" on the album Germfree Adolescents (1978) show Poly's amused curiosity at the consumer society. The exception was "Identity": "the crisis you can't see". "'Identity' wasn't funny," she agrees. "It was partly from seeing a girl called Tracy slashing her wrists in the toilets at the Roxy, a girl who died quite early on. One of those rock'n'roll casualties – her, and Sid Vicious and Nancy Spungen. Isn't it crazy?".[1]
I really do not see why you keep on insisting not only putting up a cite with partially incorrect information but using the exact quote from it that has the incorrect information. The point about the album classic status is compellingly made without that incorrect cite. The point is more compellingly made by changing the site from the one that made a good faith incorrect interpretation to the one that quotes Styrene directly and also backs up the albums status as classic. No matter how well intentioned and usually reliable the source is once it has incorrect information that cite can not be used. I have had cites thrown out and sentences deleted for incorrect information that had nothing to do with the topic on hand. You might call that nitpicking and maybe you are right but those are the rules. But that is not the case here. By leaving the incorrect information about the topic on hand you are violating the very basic spirit of the rule. Edkollin (talk) 04:29, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You completely misunderstand the point. First, cites 7 to 11 are in the article to provide evidence for the statement: "the album, Germ Free Adolescents, is widely acclaimed as one of the greatest albums of all-time". So what if 'The Guardian' critic seems to misunderstand the meaning of one of the album's tracks? It is of secondary importance. The most important point is that the album was included in that newspaper's '1,000 Albums To Hear Before You Die'. Second, regarding Poly Styrene's recollection that 'Identity' was written after witnessing an incident of self-harm, this is included later in the article. What's the problem? Yozzer66 (talk) 11:33, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Without falsifying the Guardian cite, I've removed the disputed sentence from cite 11 and I've re-used the description "unrivalled anti-consumerist anthems" later in the article. I hope this compromise allays your concerns.Yozzer66 (talk) 11:57, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's fine by me for the general reasons you mention. It is up to the other editors if they think one piece of misinformation should disqualify the cite. I am not blaming The Guardian writer as he was printing the accepted interpretation. Although Styrene corrects the misinterpretation for that one song she backs up the consensus for the rest of the album. Like I said in more than one article I have edited editors have felt one error disqualifies a cite but this is not those other articles. Edkollin (talk) 06:10, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Spelling of lead singer's name

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The lead singer's name is spelled differently by different media outlets. Marion[2] Elliott-Said in USA Today, Marian[3] in The Independent and Marianne[4] in the BBC. Not sure which is the right one. The book 1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die says it's Marion. Googling isn't much help.Timtempleton (talk) 22:09, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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