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July 2

Wikimedia API parse - properties property

The parse action of the Wikimedia API contains a property called 'properties', which shows images and "expectedUnconnectedPage" and I can't really tell what that is for and whether it's useful

KirkiArty (talk) 01:17, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

@KirkiArty: Please always give an example when possible. 'properties' shows properties for a specified page so the result will vary for different pages. Unconnected page means there is no Wikidata item for the page. I think it's only shown for pages in namespaces where it's possible to have a Wikidata item. I'm not sure about the difference between expectedUnconnectedPage (example) and unexpectedUnconnectedPage (example). Does it matter to you? PrimeHunter (talk) 02:31, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Uh

All I really care about is whether I should keep it when mirroring, aka whether it's useful KirkiArty (talk) 02:42, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

@KirkiArty: This is a help desk for the English Wikipedia. What do you mean by mirroring? Is your question about another website? If so then I have no way of telling whether users of an unidentified website will find something useful. Users of the English Wikipedia certainly may want to know whether a page has a Wikidata item. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:51, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Mirroring is hosting a copy of something

In this case ofc wikipedia KirkiArty (talk) 02:56, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

@KirkiArty: I guess this is about your own website and not a website run by the Wikimedia Foundation. It wouldn't really be a copy if you omit things but I don't know how your mirror is made and whether the API gives the same results as here. If it says UnconnectedPage for all pages then it sounds useless. Anyway, do what you want on your own website as long as you respect foundation:Policy:Terms of Use. Note the parts about trademarks and licensing. If you post questions at the English Wikipedia then please always say if they aren't about something here at en.wikipedia.org. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:20, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

They are about something here.

I'm asking about what the property tells you and whether it's useful

'Do what you want on your own website' is obvious, but doesn't help since it isn't an answer as to whether it's useful KirkiArty (talk) 03:24, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

@KirkiArty: It's useful here. I cannot speak for your unidentified website. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:39, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

I was sent a "warning"

I edited a page ("Clovis_Culture") by replacing a paragraph containing errors with a corrected paragraph.

I received a "Warning" from "jdcomix" on my Talk page -- "This is your only warning: if you remove or blank page contents or templates from Wikipedia again, you may be blocked from editing without further notice." 17:15, 30 June 2024.

I do not understand what this means, and I have received no response to my replies

Can you please explain what I was being warned about?

Thanks --

~~~~ Gahaynes (talk) 01:53, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Gahaynes. You removed well-referenced, well-written content and replaced it with content that was not very well written, and initially very poorly referenced. Instead of making your case at Talk:Clovis culture, you made a lengthy edit summary that insulted another editor as "incompetent", which is a violation of the behavioral guideline Assume good faith and is a personal attack which is contrary to policy. This is a collaborative project and decisions here are based on consensus. When another editor disagrees, it is incumbent on you to discuss the issue on the article talk page and gain consensus for your proposed changes there. Those are among the reasons that you were warned. You are new here. You need to learn more about social norms among fellow editors before trying to push through contested changes. Cullen328 (talk) 02:18, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

As for getting no replies to your remarks on your talk page, that is is because you did not ping the editor who left the warning. Therefore, that editor had no way to know that you responded there. Cullen328 (talk) 02:24, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

The weird thing is that the editor concerned about the Op's edits didn't revert them. Had he done so, with an explanatory Edit summary, it may have helped. HiLo48 (talk) 02:31, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

In addition to what others have said, if you are the G Haynes whose book is being referenced, you should not be directly editing the part of the article which references the book, as that is regarded as a conflict of interest. Rather, you should raise an edit request on the talk page, or at least discuss the matter there first. ColinFine (talk) 09:16, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Help with WP:OWN concern

Hello, I recently raised a WP:OWN concern on a page I had been edited lately the Antioch International Movement of Churches. I noticed 50% of the authorship edits on that page have been edited by a single editor since March. This editor uses speedy deletions/reverts, supposed BRD style edits, which I experienced and discouraged me. The editor is also very particular about approving edits. I am concerned this editor is exhibiting behaviors that appear to be possessive of this page. I assume good faith on this editor's part and don't have any current disputes, however when I raised the OWN issue with the editor on the article's talk page, the editor did not reply. The editor eventually left a message on my user talk page telling me, it's not for the article's talk page, to WP:FOC, and talk to administrators about it on the appropriate boards. I reiterated WP:OWN says "An editor who appears to assume ownership of an article should be approached on the article's talk page with a descriptive header informing readers about the topic." and the concerns of overdoing possessive behaviors. Still the editor did not want to address the issue. What is the proper way to address this and what is the appropriate board to bring this concern to? Pride2bme (talk) 04:57, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Pride2bme, this looks like a rather lengthy content dispute, so you could look at the processes in WP:DISPUTE. On the WP:OWN issue, can you give examples of WP:OWNBEHAVIOUR at the talk page? If not, you may have to assume good faith. TSventon (talk) 12:07, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Generally, I'd say glancing at the history, there seems to be a watchfulness that starts to become possessiveness, making 50% of the authorship on the page. There is only one dominant editor. I don't have any active content disputes, and would not want engage with this article further due to the lengths it takes to get this editor's approval. Is WP:OWN about a dispute or exhibiting possessive behaviors? Even if in good faith, from what I understood, WP:OWN sounded more like an "overdoing it" concern if an editor over dominates a page. This editor often quickly deletes and reverts contributions from multiple editors. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Antioch_International_Movement_of_Churches&diff=prev&oldid=1230752883 sometimes even reverting spelling corrections, like I corrected "a HGTV" to "an HGTV": https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Antioch_International_Movement_of_Churches&diff=prev&oldid=1231593828 or minor things I identified the church spelled their cell groups as "Lifegroups" like so but he could not accept that, instead citing sources misspelling Antioch's groups as "Life Groups" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Antioch_International_Movement_of_Churches#%22Lifegroup%22_vs_%22Life_Group%22_spelling as much talk as we went through, he would not budge. Also the editor did not want to discuss or address a WP:OWN concern. Pride2bme (talk) 12:43, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Date format in infoboxes

How do I get infoboxes to follow the DMY format? MDY seems to be the default. Thanks Roundtheworld (talk) 11:05, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi Roundtheworld you need to add the parameter df=yes e.g. {{birth date|df=yes|1999|12|31}} - best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 11:09, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. Roundtheworld (talk) 11:29, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

List of company articles by non-extended-confirmed users

I am trying to get a list together of every enwiki article on a company written by a non-extended-confirmed user. (Or, by proxy, every Wikidata item that's an instance of a company with an enwiki article written by a non-extended-confirmed user). Is this technically practical to do? If so, how could I go about doing it?

I don't have experience in these larger-scale sorts of queries, so my intuitions about what's possible and how it can be done are quite unreliable. I've dabbled a bit in Petscan but I don't think it has the capacity to query user permissions like that. My sense is this would require something like a Quarry query, but I don't know how to write those. – Teratix ₵ 11:31, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

First, the obligatory ad: this sort of question is the whole point of Wikipedia:Request a query.

Finding what user rights someone had at a specific point of time is at best impractical - you'd have to trace it back through the user rights log, which doesn't follow renames and didn't used to store which rights were changed unless they happened to be mentioned in the log comment. Extended-confirmed could be closely approximated by comparing the datestamp to the user's registration time and by counting the number of prior edits a user had made, but the latter's also impractical unless you've already narrowed your search down to a specific user. About the best you can do for the edit count is look at a user's current number of edits.

The other aspect to this is that getting a list of company pages on enwiki is nontrivial. The category system is fantastically terrible for generating such lists: not only are there companies not in Category:Companies - and in fact there are no companies there - but being in that category tree, or even a more specific one like Companies by country, doesn't mean a given page is about a company. Walking the category tree starts finding pages in individual companies' categories, like Arnold Schwarzenegger (Companies by country → Companies of the United States → People by company in the United States → Skydance Media people), long before it stops finding new company articles. Plus, as you probably know since you mention working with Petscan, most conceptually-broad categories eventually include a substantial majority of all articles in their tree, and Category:Companies by country is no exception.

All that said, quarry:query/84568 has a list of non-redirect mainspace articles in the Category:Companies by country tree to a maximum depth of 3, not reached solely through a category starting with "People by company", where the author of the earliest currently-not-deleted revision either now has 500 or fewer edits or created that page within a month of their registration. Some bad-looking data early on because of SUL and accounts like User:Conversion script, but that mostly clears up after the first page. —Cryptic 13:54, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

@Cryptic: first off, thanks very much for your work – I definitely wasn't expecting someone to actually write and run the whole query just from my question! I certainly wasn't expecting it to be possible to tell whether users were extended-confirmed at the time they created the article. In fact, the extended-confirmed criterion is just meant to be an extremely crude possible-SPA check, so in some ways it's actually better if the query is based on a user's current rather than past permissions.

The category system is fantastically terrible for generating such lists Yes, I've found this to be a problem. I'm having some success with Petscan's ability to incorporate SPARQL queries – by limiting results to pages with Wikidata items that are instances of companies, I've been able to filter out the non-company articles that end up in the tree. Although I'm not exactly sure how many genuine company articles also get filtered out.

Thanks for letting me know about Request a query as well, definitely would have posted there had I known about it. – Teratix ₵ 08:55, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

There's no easy way to mix queries against Wikidata with ones against the enwiki database. Petscan can do it because it has separate connections to both databases and stores the intermediate data itself (or so I assume; I can't imagine any other way to do it). The most practical way to do it short of writing a petscan-like tool is to make a userspace page, or a set of such pages, containing links to each article you want checked. (Which makes me consider just pulling a list of all articles linked from any page titled "List of*companies*", and wonder how many that would miss.) —Cryptic 09:53, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Also, minor thing but would be really helpful: is there a way to create a PagePile out of the query results so I can feed them into Petscan? I tried to do it myself but PagePile is asking for page_title, I think because the relevant column in the Quarry query is ca_title instead. – Teratix ₵ 09:38, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

I haven't worked with pagepile before, but I think quarry:query/84588 should be in a format it likes when it completes. —Cryptic 09:53, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Teratix, are you defining written by as created a page at a given title or contributed at least n% of extant article byte size or some other thing? Folly Mox (talk) 16:14, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

@Folly Mox: Ideally "created a non-redirect/disambiguation page or expanded a redirect into a non-redirect page at a given title", but I wasn't expecting this definition to be practical to implement in a query. "Created a page at a given title" would be a perfectly good alternative criterion for me. – Teratix ₵ 08:55, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Tolong bantu aku

Saya butuh bantuan tolong 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 118.136.121.65 (talk) 13:40, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Translation appears to be: "Please help me. I need help please." Hello IP editor - do you have a question about using or editing English Wikipedia? 57.140.16.8 (talk) 13:44, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Wikidata Question

Hi Wikipedia,

I have two concerns regarding data for Blic, daily newspaper from Serbia.

I have tried entering publication interval and for some reason it does not let me publish it. Also, I have tried editing their social media information and it did not let me. For both of them, it does not let me publish changes.

Can you tell me why ?

Боки ☎ ✎ 14:12, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

At a glance, no, I can't tell. Blic has never been subject to page protection, and I don't see anything in the filter log blocking your edits. Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 16:25, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

@Just Step Sideways If I give you information that I would like to enter, would you mind entering them for me, please ? Боки ☎ ✎ 16:54, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Oh, wait, I missed that you were asking about Wikidata, not Wikipedia. You'd need to ask over there.I believe this would be the right palce. Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 17:04, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Thank you @Just Step Sideways !

Just sent the request there!

Боки ☎ ✎ 18:24, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Edits by page

I may have asked this before, but I can't recall the answer. How can I see a list of my edits to a specific page.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:48, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

One way is to open the page and select "view history" and then "Find edits by user", enter your username and click submit. TSventon (talk) 14:53, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Thx.

Resolved

-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:23, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Adding image for Sibley Commission

I recently published a new article on the Sibley Commission, a 1960 government committee that was headed by John A. Sibley. Sibley has been deceased since 1986, and all of the other members of the 19-person committee are also deceased. During my time writing the article, I stumbled across a photograph of the committee here, showing 16 of the 19 members. Would I be able to upload this using the File upload wizard as a non-free file under the category "This is a historical portrait of a person no longer alive" if all of the members of the group are deceased, or is this category solely for individuals? JJonahJackalope (talk) 16:51, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

That seems reasonable to me. Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 17:47, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Cut-and-paste move

This user copy-pasted all the contents of 2024 Premier Volleyball League Reinforced Invitational Conference to create 2024 Premier Volleyball League Reinforced Conference then I tagged a history merge and notified the user then one hour later they boldly moved it to draft and moved it again as main article. Can someone take a look? 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 • [𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺] 17:53, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

I've done the history merge. The move to and from mainspace is untidy but needs no action. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 18:26, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Elon Musk Page Typo

There is a typo on the page for Elon Musk, it states " In 2024, NASA awarded SpaceX the $843 million contract to deorbit the Internation Space Station at the end of its lifespan" There seems to be a typo for International. I wonder if you could fix it. ADookie (talk) 22:58, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

 Fixed. Thank you for pointing that out! 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 23:21, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

July 3

How can I get proper URL for my page?

I created biography page in Wiki pedia , But i have no idea about how to get url like my name

currently it showing : User talk:BharattHari

i wan to change Bharatt Hari

BharattHari (talk) 02:06, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

@BharattHari: You should not write about yourself. See WP:AUTO. If you choose to persist, then follow the guidance from WP:YFA to create an article you can submit for review. RudolfRed (talk) 02:20, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

User indef'ed as spam/advertising-only account. DMacks (talk) 04:11, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Addition to a disambiguation page

A few days ago I added a line to a disambiguation page. This is the page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headband_(disambiguation) I added "Headband, a New Zealand music band started in 1971 by Tommy Adderley". However, it seems my addition has been reverted. I had no link to any article about "Headband" as I am not skilled enough to create one (yet). Was my addition reverted because I did not cite any source? Otari (talk) 03:08, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

@Otari no, it was because generally, disambiguation pages should only contain articles that exist. See WP:DAB for more info. If you think the band is notable and you have reliable sources, follow the directions at H:YFA and submit a draft for review. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 03:11, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the info. I have so much to learn! Otari (talk) 03:14, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

I just had a ping from an IP

[1] Can IP:s ping people now? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:46, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

It hadn't occurred to me that they couldn't. What I don't think is possible is pinging [to] an IP. ¶ I quote a subsequent message (one that's refreshingly concise): "[gptzero.me] said 'We are highly confident this text was ai generated.'" I was entirely confident of that even before seeing gptzero's opinion on the matter. I understand why people wanting such drivel would want a LLM to churn it out, because it must be even more boring to produce than it is to skimread; what puzzles me is how any reasonably intelligent human would suppose that another reasonably intelligent human would take it seriously and be persuaded by it. -- Hoary (talk) 07:32, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

@Hoary I think I got confused, like you said, it's IP:s that can't be pinged. It just doesn't happen very often that IP:s know how to ping. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:39, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Some of us have obtained deeper knowledge of this site's arcane ways. Footnote: once masking comes into effect, apparently it will be possible to ping whatever-we-will-then-call-un-logged-in-editors. 57.140.16.8 (talk) 13:45, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

I would click a "thank" for this comment, but you know. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 22:43, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Edit a Page

Dear All, I need your support to edit and correct content about a biography of a living person. The individual is exposed to an outdated content and his reputation is harmed. What is the best way to address such matters and how to officially edit the page with the collaboration of the previous editors. I would like to thank you in advance for your support and i look forward to hearing from you. Best regards, Dimitrios Bourpoulas Conval14 (talk) 09:38, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Conval14, there's editing, which can of course be careful or careless, competent or incompetent; but Wikipedia doesn't recognize the notion of "officially editing". (However, if by "officially edit" an article you mean "edit the article on behalf of its subject", you may not do this. Please read Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide.) Every article has a talk page. You can post a message there to get agreement from other editors. -- Hoary (talk) 09:52, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Questions about formatting my 1st Wikipedia article

HELLO. I'm writing my first Wikipedia article and I'm kind of stumped on two things. I was hoping someone might be able to answer my questions in simple terminology. 1. Clickable references within the article. Okay, I have several names of people and other references that are formatted to be clickable, thus taking the reader to a new page relating to what they clicked on. However, at this time, there are no associated pages for these people. Do I remove the formatting that makes the reference clickable and come back later once those ancillary pages have been written? Or what? 2. I'll use my own name as an example for this one: I do not have a Wikipedia page yet. I will later, but not right now. If I format my name to be clickable, I get a completely different Scott Young that the link leads to. Once my own page is written, how do I format it to go to me and not other people with the same name? Those are my questions. I've done a good job of finding answers to all my other questions, but these two have me a bit mystified. Any help you can offer will be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time. SCOTT YOUNG RadioStoryTeller (talk) 09:54, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

@RadioStoryTeller: Author names in references are usually only linked if we already have an article about them. Names in other places can be linked if the person appears to satisfy Wikipedia:Notability (people). See more at Wikipedia:Red link. The link Scott Young does not go to a person but a disambiguation page with a list of people. In articles, Scott Young (English footballer) should be linked with [[Scott Young (English footballer)|Scott Young]] which produces Scott Young. See more at Wikipedia:Piped link. Some templates have their own way of making piped links. Look at the template documentation, e.g. Template:Cite web#Authors. For a notable Scott Young with no article, you can try to guess what a future article might be called and for example write [[Scott Young (actor)|Scott Young]] to produce Scott Young. If you discover the person is already mentioned in Wikipedia with a red link then use the same title. If you want to mention yourself or your work then see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:54, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Scott. If you meet Wikipedia's criteria for NACTOR then there may at some time be an article about you: but you are very strongly discouraged from writing it yourself (see WP:AUTO). Unless there is that possibility of an article about you, then your name should not be wikilinked anywhere in Wikipedia - and even if it is, you should not be adding or linking your own name anywhere, as that is a COI: rather you should raise an edit request, and an uninvolved editor will decide whether the addition is appropriate.

Separately, adding yet more unsourced information to an already unsourced article is likely a waste of time: it is like building more balconies and turrets on a house without any foundations, which is likely to fall down at any time. In my view, the only work worth doing on an article like Meet the Hollowheads is to look for more independent, reliable sources that discuss the movie at some length and add them as citations for the information found in them; or to nominate it for deletion if more such sources cannot be found. (The Unknown Movies review is probably one such, but more are needed, and it is only linked as an external link, not cited as a source for any information; and more than one is needed inm any case). ColinFine (talk) 11:51, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Edit count at a certain time

Would it be possible to get the amount of edits a user had at a certain time? Thanks. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 10:38, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

This should be pretty easy by using Special:Contributions and putting in the start and end dates you are interested in. The start date could be when the account was registered, if you want the total up to the end date. Mike Turnbull (talk) 10:59, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

@CanonNi: To compute a possible approximation, "Edit count" at the bottom of Special:Contributions/CanonNi links to https://xtools.wmcloud.org/ec/en.wikipedia.org/CanonNi. Near the top are links "Year counts" and "Month counts". PrimeHunter (talk) 11:03, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

I found a better solution and am therefore marking this as

Resolved

. Thanks, both. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 12:22, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

I want to have a page written about my website, who can i talk to about getting it built?

I want to have a page written about my website, who can i talk to about getting it built? 93.175.59.10 (talk) 10:57, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

IP editor. This is a very bad idea. You are likely to be scammed as soon as you reveal who you are or the name of your website. If it is wikinotable, a volunteer will get round to writing an article. You could even draft such an article yourself but first read WP:PAID, WP:COI and especially this one. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:04, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Websites are rarely notable in their own right. It would have to be a well known website with plenty of coverage in reliable secondary sources.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 11:21, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Create page

How to create wikipedia page Harshad0 (talk) 12:38, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Creating a new article is the most difficult task to attempt on Wikipedia. It is highly recommended that you first spend time editing existing articles first, to learn how Wikipedia operates and what is expected of article content. Using the new user tutorial is a good idea too. I've placed some basic information on your user talk page that may help you. 331dot (talk) 13:06, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Verification of identity

The user Maximilian Janisch also claims to be the subject of the BLP article Maximilian Janisch (recently at AfD, but retained per no consensus). He's provided a link to German Wikipedia where his identity was verified: [2]. He wants to know if he should still separately submit verification of his identity for en-wiki, or is the one from de-wiki sufficient? --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 14:18, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Ask Squasher, who added the verification to the dewiki page, to confirm it for you? Cabayi (talk) 19:58, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, I have asked him on his dewiki talk page. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 20:35, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

delete a page not created by me

How do I remove a page created about me, but not by me? Swimmingbutterflies (talk) 14:28, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

@Swimmingbutterflies: What is the name of the article? Can you please provide a link? --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 14:38, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

See also WP:BLPSELF. Shantavira|^{feed me} 15:16, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

It is the norm for an article not to be written by its subject: we strongly discourage writing about yourself.

If you clearly meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability, then the article will not be deleted. If you do not, it may be deleted for that reason. If you are borderline notable, then it is possible that your desire for it to be deleted may sway the argument. ColinFine (talk) 16:26, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

poor quality articles by same author

a user created many bad articles, and when draftified, they moved it back to mainspace, so they cannot be draftified. is there a good way to deal with this without afd'ing each article? ltbdl (talk) 14:43, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

AfD seems doable this lists 16 articles, but 3 have been deleted and one has been nominated at AfD, leaving 12 to deal with. TSventon (talk) 15:19, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Journal cites - Publisher and location

Hi Folks!! I know its normal not to add the publisher for a journal. I'd be assuming if the publisher is not present, then the location wouldn't need to be put in either. Is there any hard limits on the journal publisher field. For example, if the journal was really old, or extremely obscure? scope_creep^Talk 16:56, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

For the truly obscure journal, including its publisher in the reference can give readers a sense of the reliability of the journal (unless the publisher is equally obscure – in which case, find a better source).

—Trappist the monk (talk) 18:41, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

When is an article too small to keep?

I found an article about an old project that didn't even get off the ground. BlueSky Open Platform was started in 2009 and died in 2011. Since the whole project was a bit of a nothingburger, should this page be deleted?

And where would be a more appropriate place to take such questions in the future? NomadicVoxel (talk) 18:36, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

@NomadicVoxel: It the subject is notable, the article should be kept: See WP:NOTTEMPORARY. You can remove it if the original notability assessment was incorrect, but if it was notable in 2009-2011, it's still notable. Separately, any very short article can be consolidated into a parent article if appropriate. -Arch dude (talk) 18:46, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

@NomadicVoxel: I prodded (WP:PROD) the article, not because it's short or old, but because it was never notable. -Arch dude (talk) 19:27, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

cousin

looking for my cousin i can not contact him they moved him from lee county not sure where John lee Hall \ ID 78433 67.44.24.5 (talk) 20:13, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

I'm afraid that the Wikipedia Help desk is about using and editing Wikipedia, and cannot help you with other matters. ColinFine (talk) 23:11, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

People who change edits

I'm asking this here because I don't know where else to ask. Very occasionally, some of the changes or additions I make are (seemingly arbitrarily) changed by others who simply appear to be indulging their own opinions or biases. My question is, who appointed them some kind of arbiter? Why do they get to change my work without explanation, and what makes it their business? And how do I contact them directly to discuss what they did? Calstanhope (talk) 20:43, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

• A reason was given for this revert, in the edit summary. Drmies (talk) 20:45, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

@Calstanhope: We work collaboratively. An edit no longer belongs to you after you hit the "publish" button, because that act releases it under the CC-BY-SA license. Reverting an edit merely expresses an opinion: see WP:BRD. You collaborate with the reverting editor by discussing it on the article's talk page. You and the other editor (usually) have equal rights, and it's best to think in terms of collaboration, not conflict. See WP:AGF. -Arch dude (talk) 21:23, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. I wasn't referring to a specific instance and I'm not interested in conflict. I generally stick to uploading photos and cleaning up language in articles (I was a professional copy editor for many years). But there has been a time or two when I thought the reversions were high-handed and arbitrary, and I didn't think they were well-explained. Is there a page somewhere on how to use the talk pages so I can inquire or ask for an explanation from the other editor? I've looked at the talk pages and can't figure them out. Thanks! Calstanhope (talk) 22:19, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Does WP:TPHELP help? ColinFine (talk) 23:13, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

a historical vs. an historical

I have a few questions: (or different ways of asking just one)

• Are there any guidelines that help editors determine whether "a historical" or "an historical" should be used in any given article, or is that left up for editors to decide on a case-by-case basis?
• Are there cases where one convention is correct and the other is not, or are they equally acceptable in any article as long as only one is consistently used throughout each article?
• Does the region of an article's topic have any role in determining which convention should be used?

– MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 22:14, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

I believe that the pronunciation with an audible /h/ -- the "h" sound in English "hotel", not the non-sound in French "hôte" -- is now standard for both British and US English. Also in standard British English there are I think no exceptions to the general rule of "a"-versus-"an" allomorphy. If I'm right, then British English would dictate "a historical". Speakers of standard US English do often (or usually?) say "an historical", which mildly puzzles me. (The matter isn't analogous to "a herb" versus "an herb".) -- Hoary (talk) 00:35, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

The once-standard but now declining 'rule' in Received Pronunciation British English was to pronounce the 'h' if the first syllable is stressed (as in 'history', for example) but not if it is unstressed (as in 'historical'); hence 'a history of . . .', but 'an historical event.' As an elderly retired copyeditor, I will die on this hill.

MrPersonHumanGuy, you might find MOS:ENGVAR useful if you aren't already familiar with it. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 151.227.226.178 (talk) 02:14, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

But, numbers formerly known as other numbers, this is complicated by the silent "h" starting such words as "honour" and "honorarium". Also recommended: pages 1618–1619 of The Cambridge Grammar of the English Language. -- Hoary (talk) 03:48, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

I see that as an addition, not a complication. It's all down to the pronunciation (not the spelling) so if an 'h-' word is stressed on the first syllable but is also known to have a silent 'h', then it also takes 'an'. If it's 'complicated', that's because human speech and in particular the English language is complicated. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 151.227.226.178 (talk) 19:15, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

As an American, I personally prefer to say a historical. To me, the phrase an historical doesn't seem any more usual than an horse, an house, or an hockey player, and removing the /h/ sounds from those words (so that we get 'istorical, 'orse, 'ouse and 'ockey player respectively) just makes them sound weird. It would be no more honorable than pronouncing the H in honor or the final letter in Illinois, Arkansas or Sioux. – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 11:47, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

That may be true for American English, or some varieties of it, which can do its own thing and good luck to it: I was discussing British English. OK, an authority —

Hart's Rules for compositors and readers at the University Press Oxford (OUP 39th Edition 1983) says on page 1:

"(c) before an aspirated h: a

a harvest, a hero [etc.]

This applies equally to words in which the first syllable is unstressed:

a habitual, a heretical, a hero [etc.]

However, old usage [I did mention I'm old] supports the use of an in such cases (also 'an humble'), and this may be adopted where it is necessary to follow a particular writer's individual style.

In some words initial h may be either aspirated or silent. The following are recommended in the absence of any preference of the author's:

a habitué, a hotel

(d) before silent h: an

an heir, an hour, an honour . . . ."

In short, it's partly idiosycratic, so as with other English variations, follow what the article's creator did and keep usage consistent within it. If you're creating the article, do what you prefer. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 151.227.226.178 (talk) 19:44, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Sarah long lost son

she having twins son Billy and Christopher platt Christopher is going on corrie soon Christopher cogan (talk) 22:14, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

@Christopher cogan: This help desk is for asking questions related to using Wikipedia. Did you have a question? RudolfRed (talk) 23:11, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Christopher cogan, your editing history suggests that your statement is somehow related to the British soap Coronation Street. If you have a suggestion for an article -- perhaps Sarah Platt? -- you can make it in the talk page of that article (e.g. Talk:Sarah Platt). Don't forget to supply a reliable source for your assertion. -- Hoary (talk) 01:02, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MikeMARS52/sandbox

how can i stop a speedy deletion of my sandbox warning because it was published to namespace? PLEASE get me help before all my work is deleted. Thanks! MikeMARS52 MikeMARS52 (talk) 23:12, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:MikeMARS52/sandbox&diff=prev&oldid=1232465738

It looks like you added the CSD? Just remove it. Or am I misreading the diff? RudolfRed (talk) 23:20, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

I did misread it. It is a copy-paste move from User:MikeMARS52/sandbox/3 RudolfRed (talk) 23:32, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

The article is at Joe Frank Chambers RudolfRed (talk) 23:34, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

July 4

Help with page edits

Hello! I suggested edits to the PDSA page (vet charity) as instructed but have yet to receive a response. Is someone able to advise if this is on a waiting list etc or if it's gone unnoticed and if so, how to flag these suggested edits for consideration? CaityLam (talk) 08:52, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

CaityLam You need to mark your proposed edits as a formal edit request(click for instructions) so they will be seen.

I can tell you that "vision" and "mission" are wholly unencyclopedic and will not be added. Wikipedia is not interested in what an organization says is its own vision and mission. 331dot (talk) 08:58, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Ratelimiting

Hi all, I keep getting a 'rate limiting' error message when trying to submit an AfC - what does this mean? Thanks! ORMcC67 (talk) 10:22, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Now solved, please ignore - thank you! ORMcC67 (talk) 10:46, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

It's been about a week and my request to create an account is still pending.

Hello all.

I'm planning on getting off to a clean start and ditching this account (not being a sock puppet), but my IP address is within a blocked range of IP addresses. (I didn't even want to use this account to write this topic)

I created an account request and you mentioned that the request could be done within the same day (three days maximum) but almost a week has passed and I have not received an email and at the same time I cannot resubmit the request.[3]

Is there something wrong?

Note: Aside from bad uploads to Wikimedia Commons in the past, I don't remember ever getting blocked on my only account (this). Eyad Mahmoud | إياد محمود (talk) 10:37, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

@إياد محمود You do have an account and it is not blocked, otherwise you wouldn't be able to post here. Are you referring to your user page? That doesn't exist because you have not yet created it. Click on that red link to do so. Shantavira|^{feed me} 12:44, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello, @Shantavira

I would like to abandon this account and create a new account (Fresh Start), but when I log out and try to create a new account, my IP address is blocked (within the range 197.59.0.0/16).

I went to create an account request and it said it would go through the same day but it's been a week. Eyad Mahmoud | إياد محمود (talk) 12:56, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

adding flags

there is a flag i want to use for a wikibox in my sandbox page that i dont think is on wikipedia proper, how would i go about adding it if i want to use it as a flag or a flag icon? Terrarian9111 (talk) 11:36, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

@Terrarian9111: Which flag? PrimeHunter (talk) 12:11, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

the flag of the naxalites/the communist party of india, and also the flag of a coptic egypt which i am 100 percent sure isnt on wikipedia Terrarian9111 (talk) 12:29, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

ok i actually found the one for the naxalites but the other one definitelly still doesnt exist on wikipedia so I'd like to know how to add it Terrarian9111 (talk) 12:37, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

@Terrarian9111: A Google image search on flag of coptic egypt found several different flags so I still don't know which flag you want or whether it might be copyrighted. Please link it. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:50, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

well actually i did find that it is on wikimedia commons, so thats useful, thanks for telling me to search it, now, how do i use it as a flagicon, the link is https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coptic_Flag.webp Terrarian9111 (talk) 13:02, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

{{flagicon image}} might be more suitable for your purposes, as AFAIK, {{flagicon}} only supports countries and regions that have existed in real life. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 13:04, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

WikiData Short Desc

Can you show what google I'd need to view (a) WikiData about zzx (b) Short Description for qrq Nuts240 (talk) 13:14, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

I don't know what to put into Google. But if in Wikipedia you search for d:zzx (or wikidata:zzx - it's the same thing) it will send you to a Wikidata search results page listing the Wikidata items that match that string. ColinFine (talk) 14:23, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

one-hundred letter word wrap

The Finnegans Wake page contains a section on the book's hundred-letter words. These display fine on a big screen, and they wrap on my phone. On my tablet though (using a browser, not the WP app) or on my desktop with the browser window at a smaller size, these words just cut off wherever the quote-box ends. Is there a way to make them wrap?

Thanks! Patrick (talk) 15:02, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

@Patrick Welsh: Add soft hyphens where you think it's reasonable for the words to break and wrap. Use {{shy}} to do so. For example (with no attention to whether these are sensible places to break): baba­badal­gharagh­takamminar­ronn­konnbronnton­nerronnt­uonnthun­ntrovar­rhoun­awns­kawn­toohoohoo­rdenent­hurnuk­baba­badal­gharagh­takamminar­ronn­konnbronnton­nerronnt­uonnthun­ntrovar­rhoun­awns­kawn­toohoohoo­rdenent­hurnuk. Bazza 7 (talk) 15:10, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, I wasn't aware of that template. It's not a perfect solution, but the book itself does employ hyphens at the line breaks. Maybe they could be added at the same places. If there's no way to do a clean wrap, I'll probably do that. Thanks! Patrick (talk) 15:49, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

I have added style=word-wrap: break-word; which just wraps at the end of the line.[4] PrimeHunter (talk) 15:52, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Perfect! That fixed it in both cases.

Cheers, Patrick (talk) 16:06, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Does Wikipedia have a policy about using cosplay photos to illustrate fictional characters in articles?

Commons has their own policies about this, but I have doubts. Their policy seems to allow cosplay photos despite including a quote from the WMF discouraging uploading cosplay photos under a Creative Commons license: COM:COSPLAY There are hundreds of cosplay photo categories many containing dozens of subcategories with hundreds of photos, so this seems to be the consensus: Category:Cosplay Does Wikipedia accept these in articles? Many could be used under fair use, but linking to commons is going to present the images as free content. This photo in particular stuck out as looking like a screen cap from some hypothetical Warner Bros show: File:Dragon Con 2010 Harley Quinn (14611663).jpeg That's not a derivative work of Warner Bros' IP? Here are several decent images that I have doubts about linking in main space:

• Recurring Batman villains
• 
  Joker
• 
  Scarecrow
• 
  Catwoman
• 
  Riddler
• 
  Penguin
• 
  Poison Ivy
• 
  Two-Face
• 
  Harley Quinn

I think that the Poison Ivy, Two-Face, and Harley Quinn photos could possibly be used because the distinctive aspects are obscured. The others all seem like derivative works, but also within Commons' "costume" policy, so I'm unsure about using them, Rjjⁱⁱⁱ (talk) 16:09, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

@Rjjiii: There are only a handful of formal Wikipedia policies: the rest are called guidelines. I think the de facto guideline on image copyright is to defer to Commons and not make more restrictive decisions here at Wikipedia. The justification would be that the image copyright experts hang out over there, not here, and if a copyright holder objects, they will take action (e.g. a DMCA takedown notice) at Commons, not here, especially since the images might be displayed on multiple language Wikipedias. Based on this, you should raise your question over there, not here. -Arch dude (talk) 16:47, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Rjjiii, I agree that Commons is the correct place to discuss the copyright status of specific images, but just because an image is OK for Commons does not mean that is appropriate for use in a Wikipedia article. I see these images as being a visual form of original research. In my long life, I have dressed up as Smokey Bear, the Devil and Santa Claus. I think it would be utterly inappropriate for me to add photos of me wearing those costumes to those Wikipedia articles. We have a non-free image policy that allows use of a low resolution image from the media franchise for identification purposes. I would oppose using cosplay images anywhere in the encyclopedia except in articles about cosplay. Cullen328 (talk) 18:56, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Thank you both, and thinking in terms of WP:OR clarifies it for me. The less likely a cosplay example is to violate WP:OR, the more likely it is to violate WP:COPYLINK. I'll mostly avoid using them, Rjjⁱⁱⁱ (talk) 03:26, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Using math template

I'm using the {{math}} templates for a linguistics article to demonstrate a sound law, but I don't know much about the internal math that dictates this; is there a way within the format to un-italicize V̄C in the formula below? I attempted to just copy and paste the V-bar into the formula as \text{V̄C}, but you can see in the right formula that the bar is obfuscated.

${\text{*VC(C)F →}}$ ${\begin{cases}{\bar {V}}C{\text{ }}/{\text{ }}\_\#\\{\text{VCC}}{\text{ }}/{\text{ }}\_\#\\{\text{VC}}{\text{ }}/{\text{ }}\_\${\text{C}}_{0}\end{cases}}$ ${\text{*VC(C)F →}}$ ${\begin{cases}{\text{V̄C}}{\text{ }}/{\text{ }}\_\#\\{\text{VCC}}{\text{ }}/{\text{ }}\_\#\\{\text{VC}}{\text{ }}/{\text{ }}\_\${\text{C}}_{0}\end{cases}}$

Thanks in advance. ThaesOfereode (talk) 16:34, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

@ThaesOfereode: I used \mathrm from Help:Displaying a formula#Rendering:${\begin{cases}\mathrm {{\bar {V}}C} {\text{ }}/{\text{ }}\_\#\\{\text{VCC}}{\text{ }}/{\text{ }}\_\#\\{\text{VC}}{\text{ }}/{\text{ }}\_\${\text{C}}_{0}\end{cases}}$. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:18, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Excellent. Thank you so much! ThaesOfereode (talk) 00:38, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Multiple images for a historic site

Hi,

How would I add multiple images to a Historic site page eg specifically I wanted to add multiple images to this link:

List of historic places in Vancouver - Wikipedia

on the line :

Roberts Building

I wanted to add this additional image that I recently uploaded to Wiki Commons:

18 Water Street - Roberts Building Cordage Building

thanks for any info. Mpeel (talk) 16:50, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

@Mpeel: this is a matter of editorial judgement, and you are an editor, like the rest of us. I recommend that you take this question to the talk page of that article at talk:List of historic places in Vancouver. As just another editor, I think you should replace the existing image with your image, since the existing image seems to be the only one that's a plaque instead of a building image. -Arch dude (talk) 17:01, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Okay thanks Mpeel (talk) 17:18, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

I have added the image to Commons:Category:Roberts Building (Vancouver) to make it easier to find. TSventon (talk) 17:09, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

New Photo- Susan Seaforth Hayes

Hello, I'd like to upload a new photo to my grandmother, Susan Seaforth Hayes' page. The current photo is from 2010 and I have a photo that I took in 2022 that I'd like to add. It's my photo, taken by me, on the set of Days of Our Lives, so I own it.

When I try to upload, it's saying it can't verify that the photo is, in fact, mine.

Can someone please advise?

Thank you,

Amy AmyJeanWiki (talk) 18:43, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

AmyJeanWiki, if you've taken the picture yourself and are willing to release your rights in it, it would be best to upload it to Wikimedia Commons, so that it can be used in all language versions of Wikipedia. Have you tried to do that? I can't find any evidence that you have. Maproom (talk) 20:19, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

@AmyJeanWiki: It looks like you tried to start the upload from a Wikipedia page. Try starting from the "Upload" button at the top right of commons:. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:00, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

I've uploaded to Wikimedia Commons, will it be available to use as her main picture soon? How do I establish that? AmyJeanWiki (talk) 03:02, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

As soon as a picture is uploaded to Commons, it is available for use in Wikipedia or any other Wikimedia project. You can in principle edit the article Susan Seaforth Hayes and replace the image by the new one.

However, as you have a conflict of interest your best course is to place an edit request on the article's talk page, asking for somebody to insert File:Susan Seaforth Hayes.jpg into the article in place of the existing picture. (Note: I specified that file by saying [[:File:Susan Seaforth Hayes.jpg]]: the colon at the beginning is what causes it to appear here as a link, and not to display the picture here; so I suggest you copy that string above into your request). ColinFine (talk) 10:35, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

@AmyJeanWiki: you can copy the picture into the article immediately, either just replace the current image= in the infobox, or if you want to keep that, add [[File:''your new image''|thumb|''caption'']] Jimfbleak - talk to me? 10:37, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

@AmyJeanWiki I've replaced the picture with your one, which is a clearly better picture for our article. Thanks for providing it. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:26, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

.... was it taken in 2022, as you said above, or in 2023 as it says on Commons? The Commons file has no .exif data, which is a pity. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:31, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Political parties

Hello, where i can find the policy of WP about political parties? i.e. by what criteria is a party considered notable, are there specific criteria? Thank you D.S. Lioness (talk) 20:12, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

You want WP:NORG for organizations and companies, which is stricter than WP:GNG. TSventon (talk) 20:25, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

D.S. Lioness, I agree that WP:NORG is the applicable notability guideline. As a practical matter, if a political party's candidates have won multiple elections, it is highly likely to be notable. If, on the other hand, the party's candidates have never won, it is far less likely to be notable. Cullen328 (talk) 00:52, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

basically I wanted to know about the political parties themselves because of this Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/National Popular Consciousness. D.S. Lioness (talk) 00:57, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

July 5

How is it possible that a topic (an article) disappears within less than 24hrs?!?

It's just not building much trust, if Wikipedia displays information on origin, definition and message of the "Wolfsgruß" and how it developed among turkic people, when such an article VANISHES from major search engines within less than 24 hrs. Actually, to me it looks as if there are only 2 possible answers, how this situation could develop: 1. Someone tried to publish a badly researched and inaccurately prepared areticle (only to generate attention for wikipedia), OR 2. plenty of mighty (and [dangerously] despotic) media outlets (and/or political lobbying communities) accumulated enough pressure to have this article CENSORED! Either way, Wikipedia doesn't appear reliable and trustworthy to everyone who noticed that! - And let me add something personal - both possible intents which resulted in vanishing of the article are equally frightful to anyone honoring democracy and freedom of speech. JamesTaggart304 (talk) 03:13, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

From what I can tell there has never been an article titled Wolfsgruß. There is Wolf salute if that's what you mean? RudolfRed (talk) 03:18, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

JamesTaggart304, here is a friendly suggestion: Refrain from breathless hyperbole and from spinning conspiracy theories until you actually understand something. Cullen328 (talk) 04:27, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

On German-language Wikipedia, "Wolfsgruß" is a redirect to Graue Wölfe. English-language Wikipedia has an article Grey Wolves (organization).   Maproom (talk) 08:06, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Wolfsgruß is the German name for a Turkish gesture called Wolf salute in English. As you can see by clicking the link, we have an article about it. This is the English Wikipedia. There is no reason for us to have an article with a title using the German name for a Turkish topic. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:36, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Incidentally, the hand configuration is similar and sometimes identical to the "horns" salute frequently used by Heavy metal fans and musicians. This was introduced to (or at least popularised by) the singer Ronnie James Dio, based on a gesture to ward off the Evil eye learned from his Italian grandmother. Many fans and others may also associate it with the 'Horned god' of pagan mythologies (as I myself do, being a Wiccan), and Japanese fans to the Kitsune (spirit fox). In these contexts it has no connection to the Wolf salute. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 151.227.226.178 (talk) 12:24, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

We have an article on that, too: 🤘🏽 Folly Mox (talk) 13:00, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Topics

What are topics and how to create them? I am talking about the types of topics related to Featured topics and Good topics.

Thanks, TheNuggeteer (talk) 04:40, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

A featured topic is a collection of featured articles that, as determined via discussion on the Wikipedia:Featured and good topic candidates page, is about a particular topic and merits publicizing. A good topic is a collection of good (or featured) articles that, as determined via discussion on the Wikipedia:Featured and good topic candidates page, is about a particular topic and merits publicizing. I think that very few editors can be said to create topics; this might be a rare example. -- Hoary (talk) 06:02, 5 July 2024 (UTC) My description of featured topics is mistaken; see Wikipedia:Featured and good topic criteria. -- Hoary (talk) 07:33, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

I'm talking about the regular topics, I see some topics which are not either Featured or Good topics, what are these? v TheNuggeteer (talk) 06:30, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Where do you see these? -- Hoary (talk) 07:33, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Saw it in a user page, forgot the name. TheNuggeteer (talk) 07:52, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

We don't use the term "topic" below good and featured topics. They are not promoted from lesser topics. There are different ways to group related articles in general. See Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and navigation templates. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:23, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Or rather, we can and do use the term topic. Editing Wikipedia we (usually) use English; topic is a good English word; no surprise then that we use this English word pretty much as it's normally used outside Wikipedia (cf paragraph, or keyboard). As PrimeHunter suggests, we don't assign any special meaning to it. Thus "Category:Configurable area-topic templates", whose reference is no surprise. (The intended or actual difference between "configurable area-topic templates" and plain "configurable area templates" isn't obvious to me.) -- Hoary (talk) 11:01, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

The Mediawiki software that Wikipedia runs on also supports a search key articletopic:, which can be used in advanced searching and the Suggested Edits feature available from Special:Homepage, but articletopic: is not surfaced anywhere in an actual article, and is determined by machine learning algorithms, rather than being set or configured by editors. Folly Mox (talk) 12:52, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Page in English Language

Hi Wiki. I’m Willy. May i ask a question? Why this https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asmara_Abigail page don’t have the page in English language as the others? Any solution about this? Thank you. 2400:9800:100:913E:81B4:A15B:27D6:2E46 (talk) 05:32, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Because nobody has created or translated that article into English yet. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 05:35, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia languages are edited independently. Lots of Indonesian articles have no English version, probably especially about Indonesian topics like Asmara Abigail. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:11, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi Willy. Note that you could try to create a draft article about her for the English Wikipedia. However, it won't be sufficient to list the films she has appeared in. You will need to demonstrate she is wikinotable in the way we define that here. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:17, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

ADD PHOTO

I have just posted my first a short item and I would like to add a photo of the person and a booklet. How do I do this, please? Paul Whyatt (talk) 13:50, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Paula Whyatt, and welcome to Wikipedia.

You have create a user sandbox, which is not yet a Wikipedia article: I have added a header to it which will allow you to submit it for review when it is ready, which it is not yet.

Successfully creating a Wikipedia article is one of the most challenging tasks there is for a new editor, and most who try it before they have spent time learning how Wikipedia works have a frustrating and dispiriting experience.

I always advise new users to not even think about creating a new article until they have spent at least several weeks making improvements to existing articles and learning about key concepts such as verifiability, reliable sources, neutral point of view, and notability. Then they can study your first article, and give it a try.

Your draft does not cite a single source. How can a reader tell whether it is accurate? (Note that, even if you're sure, the nature of Wikipedia is that next week or next month or next year, somebody could come along and change what you've written; without sources a reader cannot check whether it is correct).

Since it does not cite any sources, it does nothing to demonstrate that Karslake meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability, without which no article is possible.

You can add an image by uploading it to Wikimedia Commons and then inserting it into the draft (see Help:Upload - I'm assuming that any image of Karslake will be in the public domain by reason of age, and so copyright considerations will not arise). But there is no point in doing so before you have found the sources necessary to establish that he is notable. ColinFine (talk) 14:04, 5 July 2024 (UTC)