Talk:List of Mario franchise characters

Podoboo

I really feel Podoboo should be called Lava Bubble instead considering that name is used way more commonly than Podoboo by both Nintendo and to a degree the general public PipesTheVlob (talk) 20:01, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

I am still confused and mildly annoyed about this one, Lava Bubble is the name used in most Mario games released since around the Wii or Gamecube eraPipesTheVlob (talk) 15:29, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Two official or semi-official sources state that the name is Podoboo. The article also says "also referred to as a Lava Bubble," for which a citation is needed. If you can provide a reliable source that confirms the common name is truly Lava Bubble and not Podoboo, go ahead and change it. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 16:58, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

You haven't advanced any sort of argument or provided any specific evidence. Give people a reason to be convinced of what you're claiming. Sergecross73 msg me 18:10, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't notice people actually responded to this, but there are many notable sources that quite clearly show "Lava Bubble" is the more commonly used name in modern times, such as both Super Mario Maker games (2015 and 2019), the Capture List in Super Mario Odyssey (2017), with the last game I could find using it being Yoshi's Island DS (2006), with most games after Super Mario World calling them Lava Bubbles, with most other games using it afterwards being outliers. Overall the "Podoboo" name was last used 16 (almost 17) years ago. While there were technically more years the name was in use (21), it was very infrequent after Super Mario World (1990) and the Lava Bubble name has been used for a long enough time that i think it should have the name it is called on this title page — Preceding unsigned comment added by PipesTheVlob (talk • contribs) 18:11, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

Fawful section length

Not a huge contributer but as a Mario fan, Fawful’s section seems very overly long for a character who only has two major appearances in the series. His section is longer than most other sections on the page and I don’t think Fawful is a prominent enough character to have such a long section. 71.0.69.212 (talk) 06:12, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

Condense it down then. Every good edit starts with someone willing to try and clean something up.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 07:19, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

The reason why is because Fawful once had its own article but it was merged at some point. This article isn't in the best state right now, so the real problem is getting everyone else up to Fawful's level. Panini! • 🥪 15:18, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

Requested move 4 July 2024

List of Mario franchise characters → List of Mario characters – More concise title, WP:CONSISTENT with other video game franchise characters lists:

• List of Donkey Kong characters
• List of The Legend of Zelda characters
• List of Star Fox characters
• etc. Mia Mahey (talk) 17:20, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose I think it's at that name because we don't want people to suddenly start adding every character from a work of media who happens to be named "Mario". ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:20, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support per OP and WP:CONSISTENT Lazz_R 23:05, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose I'd argue that List of Mario franchise characters is actually more WP:CONSISTENT with the current article naming convention. For Donkey Kong, The Legend of Zelda, and Star Fox, the main article of each franchise does not have a title with "franchise" disambiguation, so it makes sense that there is also no "franchise" disambiguation in their respective character list articles. However, franchises with main articles that do have a "franchise" disambiguation in their title (which is the case for Mario (franchise)) also explicitly have "franchise" in their respective characters article:

• Alien (franchise) and List of Alien (franchise) characters
• Predator (franchise) and List of Predator (franchise) characters
• Madagascar (franchise) and List of Madagascar (franchise) characters
• The Loud House (franchise) and List of characters in The Loud House franchise
• Family Guy (franchise) and List of characters in the Family Guy franchise

spintheer (talk) 02:22, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

• The current name is definitely not appropriate. It should either be List of Mario characters or List of Mario (franchise) characters. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 01:24, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

  I would support option B here. spintheer (talk) 02:20, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

• I think one thing we're missing here is that the title would have Mario italicized. I'm not sure I see the issue with "List of Mario characters" as a title. Landfish7 (talk) 08:58, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

  Good catch Red Slash 06:05, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

  Just noting that the italics have no bearing here, per WP:ITALICTITLE Mediawiki cannot store italic titles, so that would be implemented post-move by using WP:DISPLAYTITLE. (That, and the italics may not always render/be readable to everybody, so it's not a good idea to count on them) ASUKITE 18:12, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support - context will make it very very very very obvious that this is about Nintendo's Mario universe Red Slash 06:05, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support per nom and Red slash. The title does not have to spell out every possible misunderstanding. The lead section can clarify that yes, it's obviously the franchise and not characters named "Mario". SnowFire (talk) 04:59, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per spintheer. As proposed by the nominator, WP:CONSISTENT is the relevant policy, and it would actually point to the current title as more appropriate. AVNOJ1989 (talk) 18:08, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Support Since I think it would be pretty obvious for anyone searching "List of Mario Characters" that it's characters from the Mario franchise. I think WP: CONCISE could apply here. Urchincrawler (talk) 19:42, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

• Comment (already supported above). Re the opposes citing consistentency, I'm not sold those other articles are useful comparisons. A casual reading of "List of Alien characters" would be characters that are space aliens in general, "List of Predator characters" animal-people who are also predators, "List of Madagascar characters" characters of origin in Madagascar, etc. This kind of misreading is vastly less likely with "Mario" where the wrong reading of "Mario" is clearly silly. "The Loud House" and "Family Guy" are a bit different, but if I had to guess, they're in their current form because a two or three word "adjective" form can be a bit awkward, i.e. "List of [The Loud House] characters"? They are more relevant, but I wouldn't put much emphasis on those two articles. The general point is that "Mario characters" is concise and natural, and will be read correctly by 99% of readers, especially since context (either a Google search with an image of the Mario crew, or a link in a video-game related article) will make the subject obvious. SnowFire (talk) 03:10, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support Proposed title is consistent with closely related articles and is clear and concise. Landfish7 (talk) 03:29, 16 July 2024 (UTC)