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Cultural appropriation

The article makes no mention of Messianic Judaism as a Christian cultural appropriation of Judaism. This should be mentioned within the article. Even the section of Messianic Judaism's reception among Jews makes no mention of cultural appropriation. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 11:20, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Is it even possible to culturally appropriate religions? Aren't they sort of open-source platforms? Iskandar323 (talk) 11:28, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly. Jewishness/Judaism isn't only a religion, but also a culture and ethnicity. Cultural appropriation has also been discussed in the context of Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc. A Google search for 'Jewish cultural appropriation' yields over 2 million results. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 14:24, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If only the Sumerians were around to state their case ... everyone's stolen their shit. Iskandar323 (talk) 16:53, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

100% agree with that statement. Ctysick (talk) 13:48, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, very few religions could be likened to such. Most of the world's religions have no great interest in converts, or spreading themselves, or converting the world to their ways. Just a couple do. SomerIsland (talk) 05:11, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Messianic Judaism is a legitimate branch of Judaism. Its followers follow the Torah and worship the God of Israel. The verses that support Jesus as our Messiah are present. Ladston772 (talk) 04:44, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nope. Messianic Jews are evangelical protestants. 23.31.243.57 (talk) 15:27, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah you are not Jews. Its clearly evangelical Christians attempting to fool people into thinking they are Jews. 2600:1700:BFC0:C320:41EE:78A6:D3EB:7239 (talk) 02:54, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Source? Taz On The Free Encyclopedia (talk) 06:45, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So long as adherence to the Talmud is not a requirement for a sect to be "a Judaism" then Messianic Judaism is as you say a legitimate branch. Another branch which does not adhere to the Talmud is the Karaites; they also do not follow the rulings of the Sanhedrin. As for having decided someone is the Messiah, the followers of Menachem Mendel Schneerson are still considered a legitimate branch. Many who claim Yeshua as their Messiah make themselves distinct from Judaism but those also do not claim to be Messianic Jews. BarakYirok (talk) 00:44, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is that not a matter of opinion (Whether something is cultural appropriation.) in this case, since Messianic Jews consider themselves to be Jewish, not to be non-Jews who act Jewish? Taz On The Free Encyclopedia (talk) 06:44, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Add ^[1] as a citation after the sentence "The Messianic Jewish Alliance of America (MJAA) began in 1915 as the Hebrew Christian Alliance of America (HCAA)" 108.48.166.18 (talk) 20:31, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Already done ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 23:58, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Ariel, Y. (2016). THEOLOGICAL AND LITURGICAL COMING OF AGE: NEW DEVELOPMENTS IN THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN MESSIANIC JUDAISM AND EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANITY. Hebrew Studies, 57, 381–391. http://www.jstor.org/stable/44072313

Proselytism in Israel

The article says One tactic is to plaster posters asking Israelis to boycott shops where Messianic Jews are owners or employees; another is to report Messianic Jews to the Interior ministry, which is charged with enforcing an Israeli law forbidding proselytizing. However, per Religion in Israel: While missionary activity itself is not illegal in Israel, it is illegal to offer money or other material inducements. Legislation banning missionary work outright has been attempted in the past.

So is there "an Israeli law forbidding proselytizing"? a455bcd9 (Antoine) (talk) 08:15, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Error in the section on the symbol.

There is an ongoing dispute as to whether or not the seal dates from the 1st century CEref name="Schmalz"/> or if it is a 20th-century invention. 2607:FEA8:2A80:5500:C40A:8BE0:BD69:723C (talk) 00:46, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Ariel, Y. (2016). THEOLOGICAL AND LITURGICAL COMING OF AGE: NEW DEVELOPMENTS IN THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN MESSIANIC JUDAISM AND EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANITY. Hebrew Studies, 57, 381–391. http://www.jstor.org/stable/44072313

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